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Finished: 10 PM Sat 05 Mar 16 UTC
Friday Night Diplomacy-3
7 minutes /phase
Pot: 105 D - Autumn, 1908, Finished
Classic, Draw-Size Scoring, Hidden draw votes
1 excused missed turn
Game won by Nevertheless (0 D X)
05 Mar 16 UTC Autumn, 1904: You don't have to lie to win at Diplomacy. In fact, telling the truth and nothing but will help you more than lying. If you don't LIKE it, then Diplomacy isn't for you.
05 Mar 16 UTC Autumn, 1904: Hey Darkmantis! You wanna team up? :D

Let's leave Prussia and Silesia empty?
08:29 PM Autumn, 1901: sure
08:30 PM Autumn, 1901: lol you're making me so nervous. please respond a little sooner next time :P
08:30 PM Autumn, 1901: I forgot about chat
08:36 PM Autumn, 1901: Move to ska and I wont invade you?
08:39 PM Spring, 1902: excuse me? Was that a threat?
05 Mar 16 UTC Autumn, 1904: That was the extent of our chatting. After that it's just you being rude to me.
05 Mar 16 UTC Autumn, 1904: How can you win by telling the truth?
05 Mar 16 UTC Autumn, 1904: Telling the truth leads to more solid alliances. Solid alliances mean long term success.
05 Mar 16 UTC Autumn, 1904: lol it wasn't intended to be rude
05 Mar 16 UTC Autumn, 1904: Please, explain to me what I said to that was rude. I wanna have a good laugh
05 Mar 16 UTC Autumn, 1904: Can we draw in Spring 1906 if nobody is defeated? This game is dragging.
05 Mar 16 UTC Autumn, 1904: lol it wasn't intended to be rude
05 Mar 16 UTC Autumn, 1906: GG. Sorry I had to leave.
05 Mar 16 UTC Autumn, 1906: GG
05 Mar 16 UTC Autumn, 1907: You guys are waiting to draw??
05 Mar 16 UTC Autumn, 1907: lol GG Austria. I don't know how you did it, but you seemed to have brainwashed france
05 Mar 16 UTC GG
05 Mar 16 UTC sneaky bugger!
05 Mar 16 UTC *sigh* There was no honor in this.
05 Mar 16 UTC I think this'll be my last live game for a while. This is not the first time I was singled out for being a good player. :/

Maybe I'll do anon only or something
05 Mar 16 UTC absolutely agree.. i also only like anon
05 Mar 16 UTC Have you ever been to any live tournaments Yoyoyozo?
05 Mar 16 UTC It's all about reputation there and manipulating people's views of others based on that. Kind of like real war/politics.
05 Mar 16 UTC I haven't but I will start going to a few in the coming months to prepare for WDC. I guess that's true but I feel like there was nothing I could at a certain point.
05 Mar 16 UTC I hate that feeling. I saw your solo coming and could literally do nothing about it.
05 Mar 16 UTC there was a game earlier played exclusively by players who know my play style too well.
nevertheless, yoyoyozo, lordoftheflies and a couple more.
i cant play a game like that...
05 Mar 16 UTC If France had not been such a strong ally, then I would have suffered. I also moved on you just before it became profitable for you to move on me which I think was luck of the draw more than anything else.
05 Mar 16 UTC And really, we were playing with a bunch of newbs and i should have drawn, but the wins are so rare for me.
05 Mar 16 UTC wins are rare all around..
05 Mar 16 UTC I suppose. but these games are really bad for my rankings, so I think I'll play some higher profile games to level it out a little bit. Don't worry. I haven't given up live games altogether
05 Mar 16 UTC why are they bad for your ranking?
also, why is the new ranking out yet?
05 Mar 16 UTC ehh, you moving on me had nothing to do with it. I could have handled that and then some. It was me fighting a 2 front war that led to you winning. I even threaten to throw the game, but France insisted on his 2WD
05 Mar 16 UTC cant believe i let you have it nevertheless... what stupidity..
05 Mar 16 UTC because i dont like threats to throw games..
they demolish any chance of solos.
05 Mar 16 UTC and anyway it wasnt my idea..
05 Mar 16 UTC because the way the system works is that it discourages better players from playing with the general population. If I solo this game, it won't make my GR go up by much, but if I lose, my rating tanks hard. That's why you don't see too many high profile players in live games these days.
05 Mar 16 UTC alright, where do they play then?
i should join some sort of tournament or something..
05 Mar 16 UTC I do it for though, so I try to balance the number live games I play with invitational games. I've been on a terrible losing run though because people recognize my play and get paranoid.
05 Mar 16 UTC i am getting real sick of noobs and NMRs
05 Mar 16 UTC High profile players play invitational games with other high profile players generally.
05 Mar 16 UTC and how do i find myself invited to one of those?
05 Mar 16 UTC how high does your rank have to be to get invitations?
05 Mar 16 UTC time to move out of gen pop i believe
05 Mar 16 UTC If you're looking for just NMR free games, they are usually GR rank 250 or better. you can get away with like 300 or so though but top 250 take priority.

For like super high quality games, it's top 150
05 Mar 16 UTC how do i get in them?
any tournaments coming up you recommend?
05 Mar 16 UTC i would assume my GR is top 300 this month.. was about 800 last month after 3-4 games.. now ive played around 20 something.. should go up dramatically i expect..
05 Mar 16 UTC When this months GR is released, there will be a ton of people looking to play games with other players of similar GR. should be in within the next week or two
05 Mar 16 UTC after that, who knows, if I am invited to a game I think you'll fit in, I'll vouch for you. Just be sure to learn from your mistakes. It'll hurt my reputation if I vouch someone into a game and it ends the way this game did.
05 Mar 16 UTC this game was pure trolling
05 Mar 16 UTC I disagree with you Yoyoyozo, I have not played he invitational tournaments on this site but I have played them in real life and the only truly egregious play was by the newbies. Nothing I did was embarrassing. The game is diplomacy it and it all about convincing people of things that may or may not be true.
05 Mar 16 UTC in all fairness, nevertheless, i wasnt "convinced" and you know it.
i was just willing to take the risk just to see a 2 way draw.
i was actually surprised when you let me into munich, didnt think that would happen
05 Mar 16 UTC You were "convinced" that a 2 way draw was a possibility, which is all I needed to convince you of.
05 Mar 16 UTC I agree nevertheless. You did nothing wrong. You did what needed to be done to solo

Start Backward Open large map Forward End

Austria
Won. Bet: 15 D, won: 105 D
18 supply-centers, 15 units
France
spacecadet (329 D)
Survived. Bet: 15 D
14 supply-centers, 12 units
Germany
Yoyoyozo (182 D)
Survived. Bet: 15 D
2 supply-centers, 5 units
Italy
TSAB (197 D)
Survived. Bet: 15 D
0 supply-centers, 1 units
Turkey
BlackJackP74 (263 D)
Defeated. Bet: 15 D
Russia
Darkmantis578 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 15 D
England
Defeated. Bet: 15 D
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