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Finished: 12 AM Sat 27 Feb 16 UTC
Name-13
1 day, 12 hours /phase
Pot: 210 D - Spring, 1909, Finished
Classic, Public messaging only, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
11 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 1906: Hey, France, do you want a big chunk of Germany? There's now way I'm going to win any time soon, so if you want, Germany's all yours.
11 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 1906: France -- your best hope is to get two units on the stalemate line and hope that you can be part of a draw. I suggest Mars and Spa. The only reason A wants you to go after Germany is to increase their chances at a solo. I expect that is obvious to you, but just saying.... :-).

Cheers.
11 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 1906: Germany -- You are looking to get England and Italy to help against my solo win (which, by the way, is not in reach). What is your plan for France? If France is going to not attack you and not attack your allies (ostensibly), what are you expecting them to do?
12 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1906: Sorry guys I read these messages late.
12 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1906: I will stop my progresses against France and Germany if both are willing to turn and fight Austria. I will vote for a draw once 2 more people have been eliminated
12 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1906: Germany, I will stay in Denmark this fall. Destroy your fleet. Next year I will give it back so u can build an army
12 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1906: France we are going to have to build a stalemate in the Mediterranean using both of our fleets - be prepared to collaborate
12 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1906: England -- sounds good.
14 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1906: OK England, Germany, I'm in.
@ Germany: can we aim for Pic, Bur and Ruhr to be DMZ?
14 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1906: @England: Eng Channel DMZ, if you want my help please move that fleet to the Irish sea or Mid Atlantic
14 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1906: you can advance your fleets through the western med and I'll support your action against the evil Habsburgs from Tunis and from my new unit in Mar
14 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1906: Also Austria only has 2 fleets, so I'd like to limit you to may 2 fleets as south of the Irish sea as well
14 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 1907: Austria is on 12
The next will probably be: Rom, Ank, Con and Smy
putting him on 16 (hang in there Turkey and use that black Sea fleet to really annoy him) :-)
14 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 1907: To win they'll need 2 of: Mar, Tun, Mun, Ber and St. P, considering their forces are mostly land based I wager they'll try for Mun and Ber and maybe also push towards Mar
15 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 1907: France: I may keep an army in Ruhr if necessary to hold Munich. If not,I'll advance out.

England: I think it best if you have an army in StP. Let me help...
15 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 1907: England 2: I'll take you up on your previous offer in the fall.
15 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 1907: E/F: can I suggest an end-game goal of a 4-way draw?
15 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 1907: G: ok, and yes I'd be fine with a 4 way draw
15 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 1907: @England: can you please confirm that you're OK with everything, you have a lot if forces pointed at my back so I feel a little insecure.
16 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1907: Germany - four way draw sounds good to me and yes you can take Denmark from me but not Sweden
16 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1907: France- what would you like me to do with my fleet in Western Med. and Irish Sea? I can keep Irish Sea put if no more help is needed in the Mediterannean.
16 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1907: England, we can't stop Austria building a fleet in Tri so I suggest you move yours into the Mid Atlantic and join the fun in the med :-)
16 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1907: I'll also support you to from the western med to Try.
Sorry Italy, if we dislodge you then you can retreat to Rom or Nap should Austria vacate either of them
16 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1907: @E/G: I propose I we balance our SC growth so we all stay within one SC of each other. That means Germany should get the next SC.
16 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1907: Sounds good. England -- looks like Kiel will need to support hold Munich. And it looks like you can take StP without my help. So I will take swe instead of Den. We can swap next year if you want.
17 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1907: I, of course, am also interested in this draw. In the mean time, I will play my part. I'm enjoying the messages and I keep appreciating that this is a gunboat game.
17 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1907: France: All that sounds good to me!
17 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1907: Austria -- get rid of Turkey (sorry Turkey...)m as 5 players are too many to draw...
17 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1907: Right now there is no way for Austria to kill Turkey without moving AT LEAST one fleet over there, which would make him very vunerable in the west. I think there is still a chance for either of them to be part of the draw
17 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1907: Unless they have armies in Syria and Armenia then:
A Arm -> Smy
A Syr S A Arm -> Smy
A Bul -> Con
captures Smy

after that he just has to mop up
17 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1907: if Turkey knows that then they might block a move to Syria.

But if Austria knows that Turkey knows that they may let him move to Syria and go for Smy.

But if Turkey knows....

This is a rabbit hole of mind games :-)
19 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 1908: Can we pause for the weekend and restart Monday? That would really help me out as I'm going out of town. Thanks.
19 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 1908: Ok
19 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 1908: France- I will be moving my fleet in MAO to North Africa so yourfleet in Spain can move to Western Med. For Tyrrhenian, I could either support you into Rome or into the Ionian, but Austria can stop one of those, so I will have to guess which one he will do. Just make sure to move both Tuscany to Rome and Tunis to Ionian so that I can support one of them
19 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 1908: Germany- could you move out if Sweden for the spring, and then move back into it in the fall so I could move my fleet in Finland through, as right now it is pretty uselessl.
19 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 1908: England -- how about we swap Swe for Den this year? Does that work with what you want to do with your fleet?
20 Feb 16 UTC Spring, 1908: Germany - sounds good to me
22 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1908: England: what do you want to do in the med?
22 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1908: @Austria: do you still need a pause?
22 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1908: Nah we're good. Everything worked out since we didn't have to do any diplomacy phases. Thanks for checking though.
23 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1908: France- you can either support yourself into Venice or move to Rome with my support. He can only stop one of those, unless he pretty much ignores Germany's threat.
23 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1908: Like what the hell even just happened in Warsaw?
24 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1908: yeah, bad on me. I misjudged your moves! Nice take. I'm hoping England will help me get it back if the game goes on....

Austria -- once Turkey disbands, will you vote draw? Otherwise E/F and I will co-ordinate our moves against you and I think you can't take us. Excellent game though...
24 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1908: This is draw- size scoring do we should all get as close as we can to the same number of supply centres
24 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1908: If we draw now, we split the pot evenly among the four of us. It's not proportional.
24 Feb 16 UTC Autumn, 1908: Wait until turkey disbands though.
24 Feb 16 UTC Alright, now it is time to vote Draw. We'll each get 53 points.

E/F: all-out against Austria until their vote is in.

E: I will support Liv -> Warsaw. Please confirm that you will make that move.
25 Feb 16 UTC E: it's up to you now, set draw and let's finish this :-)
25 Feb 16 UTC G: if England isn't going to draw you shouldn't support him to War.
Try and take it yourself
26 Feb 16 UTC Gg

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Austria
p.Tea (101 D)
Drawn. Bet: 30 D, won: 53 D
15 supply-centers, 14 units
Germany
dgibson987 (4565 D)
Drawn. Bet: 30 D, won: 53 D
7 supply-centers, 7 units
England
Bennett (177 D)
Drawn. Bet: 30 D, won: 53 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
France
thorfionn (209 D)
Drawn. Bet: 30 D, won: 53 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
Italy
Unstupid (696 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Turkey
vonotar (86 D)
Defeated. Bet: 30 D
Russia
kwch8252 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 30 D
Civil Disorders
KingFabulous (100 D)Italy (Autumn, 1903) with 3 centres.
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