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Pot: 707 D - Autumn, 1908, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring, Hidden draw votes
1 excused missed turn
Game won by stefanodangello (376 D)
16 Nov 15 UTC Autumn, 1903: Whatever you say...

17 Nov 15 UTC Autumn, 1903: I can't recall having stabbed England at all. But I'm more surprised to find out I'm actually on my way to an early solo!

If that's your actual analysis of what's happening, maybe that could by itself explain how you ended up in such a situation.

I appreciate the compliment, anyway.
21 Nov 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: Well, this is the best 3-way team I've seen since the time I played Diplomacy in my uni hall and a group of three friends joined us.
21 Nov 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: Well done!
21 Nov 15 UTC Autumn, 1904:
21 Nov 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: ;-)
23 Nov 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: I catch a subtle sarcasm in french words. Be sure my neighbour no one is "cheating" you.
Me, Germany and Austria are not friends in real or fictionary life (as a matter of fact I should not say this because being anonymous game we could be, but you understood me).
Simply we are playing a game in which we make decisions that could accord or not accord to the desires of other players. If I'd get a coin every time I could pretend to be victim of a cheat today I'd be quite richer than I am ;o)
24 Nov 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: Man...I really pissed off France.
28 Nov 15 UTC Spring, 1905: Order your fine horses now!
Raise up your hand to the level of your eyes!
Nothing can save you now -
except perhaps Christine ...
Start a new life with me -
Buy his freedom with your love!
Refuse me, and you send your lover to his
This is the choice -
This is the point of no return!
28 Nov 15 UTC Spring, 1905: Phantom !
28 Nov 15 UTC Spring, 1905: 'La Statua
Don Giovanni, a cenar teco m’invitasti,
e son venuto.

Don Giovanni
Non l’avrei giammai creduto.
Ma farò quel che potrò! Leporello,
un’altra cena fa’ che subito si porti!

Ah, padron, siam tutti morti!

Don Giovanni
Vanne, dico…

La Statua del Commendatore
Ferma un po’.
Non si pasce di cibo mortale
chi si pasce di cibo celeste.
Altre cure più gravi di queste,
altra brama quaggiù mi guidò!

La terzana d’avere mi sembra,
e le membra fermar più non so.

Don Giovanni
Parla dunque: che chiedi, che vuoi?

La Statua del Commendatore
Parlo, ascolta, più tempo non ho.

Don Giovanni
Parla, parla, ascoltando ti sto.

La Statua del Commendatore
Tu m’invitasti a cena,
il tuo dover or sai.
Rispondimi: verrai tu a cenar meco?'

You could be the statue, as well. Though, from what England has said of your press, you're also closer to Don Giovanni yourself...
28 Nov 15 UTC Spring, 1905: What a weird game.
28 Nov 15 UTC Spring, 1905: I'm utterly bewildered.
30 Nov 15 UTC Autumn, 1905: Show France some love please.

This was meant to be my welcome back :D
30 Nov 15 UTC Autumn, 1905: I'm not sure this is weird at all, Germany and Austria just bullied the rest of us, and some were too slow to see it, even though it was pointed out to them...
02 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 1905: Finally, Germany goes for solo...
I can help everyone who is interested in killing him and go for a draw as soon as he's dead !
02 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 1905: I'm afraid the attack against you was in order to defend another ally from a stab and prevent you from becoming a solo threat, not a solo attempt on itself. I'm confident my overall behaviour towards my other allies easily makes clear what my goals are.
02 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 1905: Germany doesn't want to solo, he just wants to play with all of us dangling us on our respective threads :)
04 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 1905: Germany and I had a wonderful play last phase that I totally botched. We were going to take Edi and convoy to Yor (which Germany had ordered but I messed up by playing on my phone and not saving correctly).

If Germany's just playing to keep me dangling by a thread, then it's working wonders and I'd encourage him to keep doing it. That way I can at least play spoiler for the country that has taken my home SCs at the cost of his own...
04 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 1905: Not the first time an army from the continent took Britain and stayed.
04 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 1905: Agreed. That's the exact conversation Germany and I have been having for the last few phases. :)
07 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 1906: Actually, are you okay with me tapping Edi? It'll amount to the same as a hold, but it may make France think twice before moving to retake Lon.
07 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 1906: Ha! I totally posted that in global chat on purpose. Three guesses as to what I'm planning...
08 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 1906: Great! I'll support Nwg-Edi, then!
14 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 1906: Sorry for my delay, I was out for a long weekend. I'll be focused on Dip in a couple of hours.
19 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 1907: I'm ready to die.
19 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 1907: Take norway ill take stp
21 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 1907: Sorry for missing the turn, had a full weekend.
21 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 1907: I'm sorry, but we have already agreed to eliminate you thanks to that NMR. There is no way back, now.
22 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 1907: Gosh...
24 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 1907: Ok, I'll refrain from further attempts at joking...
25 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 1907: Phantom !
06 Jan 16 UTC Gg Germany.
06 Jan 16 UTC He gets the +5 he needs to win this turn
06 Jan 16 UTC Not necessarily... Possible, but not absolutely assured.
06 Jan 16 UTC True. Absolutely assured to 17 centers:

Moscow supports Ukraine-Sevastopol
Vienna and Budapest support hold Trieste.

The 18th will come from a lucky guess with Marseilles/Spain.

Losing Serbia would then be inconsequential.
06 Jan 16 UTC If not this turn than next.....Italy never seriously tried to stop him.
06 Jan 16 UTC I don't think you can put the German solo at Italy's feet. The F/E war in the North and shifting A/T/I conflict in the East meant that Germany really didn't have to face any formidable resistance. His toughest fights were still 3-on-1 (G/A/E vs R and G/E/I vs F).

We got tunnel vision becoming absorbed in our own individual conflicts and so Germany was able to grow without serious opposition. Chalk that up to clever diplomacy on Germany's part or faulty strategy on everybody else's. Personally, I think it's a bit of both.

Well played Germany, good game to everyone else.
06 Jan 16 UTC Completely agree with your analysis Austria -- but there was still time for an IAT to hold a stalemate line not too long ago. Italy kept coming East and left the back open. My little stab came after it was obvious we were cooked.
07 Jan 16 UTC Fair point. I don't know what your press looked like, but it seems as though he didn't trust you regardless of the situation. I can sympathize, press between France and I (this is England, not Austria BTW) has had similar issues.

At the end of the day, strategic and diplomatic failures are just part of the game. I did what I thought best same as France, and hindsight tells us both we were wrong. Same is true of Italy. A good game of Diplomacy to me is not a flawless one, but one where everyone is invested and does their best. Despite my position, I had a good deal of fun. Thanks to all.
07 Jan 16 UTC Apologies for misreading pink for red! Well played folks.
08 Jan 16 UTC I must admit I misunderstood the "Draw-Size Scoring" description of the game, and this had a little influence on my strategic decisions: I never thought I could perform a solo win, so I follow the line to close the game as second in a two-only-players scenario which would have been my "best" possible result.

Probably I would have played differently with a more precise understanding.
08 Jan 16 UTC Nonsense -- this game was WTA when it was launched. It's only very recently been retitled as Draw-Size after the site changes.
08 Jan 16 UTC Short buffer brain?
08 Jan 16 UTC Italy, look to your goals. I get that your strategy of being the biggest loser nets the most points, but a lose is a lose on your record. I would much rather work for a draw with fewer points. Points come with time....your record stays with you forever.
09 Jan 16 UTC Well played Stef.
09 Jan 16 UTC Sorry for the delay, these days have been quite busy.

As England, I think, mentioned, it is impossible for a solo win to occur if there are no mistakes. I got extremely lucky in the sense that almost everything I tried was successful, both diplomatically and, to a certain extent, tactically.

Though the timing of the invasion of France - with France wholeheartedly committed to the invasion of England - and the joint strike against Russia were very good results, I feel that the turning point of the game, that is, when I actually aimed at the solo, was when Austria was convinced to attack Italy.

I felt bad about it, but it had do be done. So I promised him full support. That allowed me to move in force across the stalemate line with Italy's support, something I assume he would not be pleased to see, had Austria not attacked him earlier.

It was unpleasant, as I had so far enjoyed his friendship and overall enthusiasm; an ally I'd otherwise be happy to keep, if circumstances had allowed me to win without this.

Towards the end of the game, personal matters made it impossible for me to keep press at the level and frequency I'd like, but it doesn't mean the game was not interesting!

I've enjoyed played with you tremendously, and especially the overall relationship built with England and Italy. My only regret from this game is that we did not convoy Edi-Yor!!
09 Jan 16 UTC Gosh. Enjoyed playing, that was.
11 Jan 16 UTC I agree with Germany, attack to me from Austria was unnecessary (at that moment Austria had 7 SC, I was going to 5 and Germany had 6).
More over that attack unbalanced all my strategy and forced me to rely more and more on Germany friendship (even when it could be a poisoned one).

BTW I enjoied much the game and the chatting.
17 Jan 16 UTC Well, that was the idea! You wouldn't have trusted me if I had suggested the joint attack against Austria.

I recall reading once that playing Germany was such a great pleasure because, if done well, you'd always know what would happen before it actually happened. I was terrible as Germany. Then I got Germany in two games in the beggining of last year. The first, a very high-calibre one, ended, as all my previous attempts, in defeat, in spite of my efforts and of all I learned. The second, in a League game, was good enough for a 6-way draw, and I had won game 3 (thanks to what I had learned in the other game as Germany), so, ok.

This was the third! It is, indeed, fascinating to play Germany with this in mind, and trying to coordinate everything that happens, from England to Turkey.

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