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Finished: 06 PM Sun 27 Sep 15 UTC
Private Return to the Thunderdome
1 day, 12 hours /phase
Pot: 194 D - Spring, 1911, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
19 Sep 15 UTC Autumn, 1909: By an agreed game two NMRs, remarkable.
20 Sep 15 UTC Autumn, 1909: Sorry guys, lost contact with the world for a while there.
23 Sep 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: You guys wanna just ready this one up?
23 Sep 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: I'm ready.
23 Sep 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: Me too.
23 Sep 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: Give me 30
23 Sep 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: Well, Austria has to put in orders too anyway
23 Sep 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: Seems weird to take a cd on your record for nothing.
23 Sep 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: ??? Give me 30??? Sorry but means what???
23 Sep 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: You guys need me to take over for Austria?
23 Sep 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: Yes please and we say thank you for the next donation.
23 Sep 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: It meant give me 30 minutes and I'd put my orders in. Already did though.
23 Sep 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: Ahh, thx
25 Sep 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: Gg France
25 Sep 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: Nooooo!!!!!! I loved my beach. Foul Turk! How do you all think that Sea got Black? Turks don't bathe. Fact.

GG all.
25 Sep 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: england, lets draw this
25 Sep 15 UTC GG all
25 Sep 15 UTC turkey, your turn
25 Sep 15 UTC Thank you all, greetings from Vienna
25 Sep 15 UTC Phil, more than disappointing in the CD
25 Sep 15 UTC The old Italy was theMarauder, also disappointing.
25 Sep 15 UTC Yes. He contacted me after the CD and apologized. But too little too late

The Italian ruined my solo bid
25 Sep 15 UTC Which Italian lol
25 Sep 15 UTC the first one :)
25 Sep 15 UTC Good game all. Sorry I couldn't make anything happen at the end France ;)
25 Sep 15 UTC Kuta us big bear. What was that?
25 Sep 15 UTC Specialy thanks to Russia.
25 Sep 15 UTC Italy going to war with France was foolish. That was the biggest problem with this game.
25 Sep 15 UTC I may beg to differ you big bear
25 Sep 15 UTC Neither one of them lived to see the end of the game.
And Austria betrayed me in an alliance.

Which ones are left standing?
25 Sep 15 UTC Hard to argue with Russia. It didn't exactly work out for Italy :p
25 Sep 15 UTC With Italy and France fighting, that made the Eng/Ger alliance even more potent.
With Austria after me and Germany not being helpful, Turkey was able to build up and secure the corner. So it goes.
25 Sep 15 UTC EGT played a great game. I just wish the others would have seen it sooner.
25 Sep 15 UTC Yeah, when Italy attacks France, Austria really needs to ally with Russia! And France would have lasted 3 years longer if Italy hadn't made the early attack.
25 Sep 15 UTC Well earned draw.
25 Sep 15 UTC well, that's not truly correct,the Italian NMRing was the point of contention----thats the turn i was going to stab England, but ended up taking Marseilles because of the pending CD....thought we were going to 4 way draw, then abge took over Italy. I was going to leave the Italian alone to help in fighting the english
25 Sep 15 UTC I wish my convoy to Tuscany had worked in Spring 1908 :(
25 Sep 15 UTC Not sure if Italy vs France necessarily means Austria + Russia, but it definitely means ART need to beware of EG. Only one of us in the east lived to tell the tale.
25 Sep 15 UTC yeah I saw it coming ssorenn :p let's just say I liked my chances in Fall 1905
25 Sep 15 UTC I don't know if this is a rule of thumb or not, but in all the games I can remember playing where Italy makes an early attack on France, I am pretty sure only one eastern power has survived to the end to draw with multiple players in the west.
25 Sep 15 UTC no, i was going to stab in spring of 05, and you would not have been able to stop it
25 Sep 15 UTC Well, different game if Italy hadn't NMR'd in F04. But I went over your options in my head in F04 and S05 and decided both turns I'd be fine and had until S05. We'll never know who's right :p
25 Sep 15 UTC till the NMR, we were running a CT, even though i was working with the english, the plan was always to kill him
25 Sep 15 UTC I saw it also coming that Germany will run for a solo but nobody believed me and so it was a hard work to survive. Near by perfect played Germany.
25 Sep 15 UTC i love you too, Gerry
25 Sep 15 UTC Next game?
25 Sep 15 UTC Overall a fun game, given my circumstances. I was so pissed that Italy #1 quit. It's like, hey, I'll try this new thing cuz I'm so bored of the same old Italian play, and then it's not as exciting as he thought so he left. Anyone remember who original Italy was? I'll avoid him as much as possible going forward. Thanks abge for taking over, sorry we couldn't manage anything together.
25 Sep 15 UTC ^ Exactly.
I'm less annoyed with the outcome of a poor strategy by Italy than by him leaving his mess for others to deal with.

Always put an RR floor in games!
25 Sep 15 UTC TheMarauder, was first Italy
25 Sep 15 UTC Well said Kuta, I'm not at all pissed that he tried a particular tactic. This was a good learning experience for how to (poorly) deal with an aggressive Italy as France. I also remember there was an article in the velvet glove for opening west as Italy right when this game started, so it was interesting to see how the game dynamics worked with that opening. But FFS, play it out.

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Gerry (3173 D (S))
Drawn. Bet: 25 D, won: 65 D
13 supply-centers, 13 units
Drawn. Bet: 25 D, won: 65 D
11 supply-centers, 11 units
ssorenn (0 D X)
Drawn. Bet: 25 D, won: 65 D
10 supply-centers, 10 units
OB_Gyn_Kenobi (888 D)
Defeated. Bet: 25 D
abgemacht (1076 D (G))
Defeated. Bet: 19 D
phil_a_s (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 25 D
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
Defeated. Bet: 25 D
Civil Disorders
phil_a_s (0 D X)Austria (Autumn, 1910) with 0 centres.
TheMarauder (1270 D)Italy (Spring, 1905) with 6 centres.
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