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Finished: 11 AM Thu 28 May 15 UTC
American Domination I
12 hours /phase
Pot: 116 D - Autumn, 2015, Finished
Fall of the American Empire IV, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by rbunnell3 (213 D)
02 May 15 UTC Spring, 1999: Greetings from London UK, good luck everyone :-)
02 May 15 UTC Spring, 1999: Likewise from Brisbane, Australia. Also, goodnight, I'll see you all in 8 hours.
02 May 15 UTC Spring, 1999: :-D
04 May 15 UTC Autumn, 2000: I keep forgetting this is a 12h. Let's blame the miss so far on lax military work ethic.
04 May 15 UTC Autumn, 2000: Whoops, missed a phase. Dammit.
08 May 15 UTC Autumn, 2002: I don't know what I find more incredible - that most countries have let 2 countries run roughshod over the board...or that I see people actually helping them grow even bigger at their own expense. SMH

#DamnNoobs
09 May 15 UTC Autumn, 2002: I don't know what I find more incredible, people who miss phases, or people who point out that other people are bigger than them when they have missed phases :-D :-D
Not being funny, BC, just sayin :-)
09 May 15 UTC Autumn, 2002: I don't know what I find more incredible... Knowitalls who try to tell 'noobs' what to do, or 'experts' with only 6 points...

Just sayin'. :)
09 May 15 UTC Autumn, 2002: BC is one of the least powerful factions on this map, and I had to deal with another faction completely solo. You, on the other hand, are sitting up next to someone who's bigger than you and your closest neighbour combined, and yet you somehow get conned into helping the huge person get even more centres at the expense of any chance of you ever getting out from under the thumb.

Ultimately, I missed one phase, and it was inconsequential. As a matter of fact, it was likely beneficial.
09 May 15 UTC Autumn, 2002: Oh, incidentally, Check_Mate, I couldn't help but look at your match history and see that you have a significant number of games w/ Wulfie here. Do you really want to be talking trash when you're established partner tag teaming (at best) in a pickup game? Come now.. That's honestly pretty pathetic.
09 May 15 UTC Autumn, 2002: Is this a game that's supposed to be fun, or a forum for getting snippy with people who don't do what you want them to do? I'm here to have fun, not get in pissing matches.

Again, just sayin'.
09 May 15 UTC Autumn, 2002: BC

I do have one or two players that I seem to have come across in games a lot lately, but I put this down to the fact that the same group of players like to play the same variant with the same phase length.

The negotiations that I have had with NY are a matter for myself and NY. Private press is an option that has been enabled in this game, and if you are not comfortable with it, I respectfully suggest you do not join games where it is enabled.

Likewise I am full of admiration for the fact that you have dealt with California yourself. This shows your skill in the tactical and strategic aspects of the game. Do not spoil this achievement by bad-mouthing your fellow players when things don't go your way.

Finally and most seriously, cheating accusations should be made to the moderators and not to your fellow players in game. Feel free to email them using the address provided elsewhere on this site.
09 May 15 UTC Autumn, 2002: And by the way, NY, the fact that BC "only" has six points right now is irrelevant really. Most of his points are in play, i.e. in use in other games.
09 May 15 UTC Autumn, 2002: Fun. That is the point. People need to chill! :)
09 May 15 UTC Autumn, 2002: Completely agree. But couldn't let a cheating accusation go without comment.
09 May 15 UTC Spring, 2003: I never said cheating, don't misinterpret that. I've seen cheaters. You aren't it. What I said had to do with having an inherent advantage in that you guys apparently know one another and can safely enter into agreements by which you don't have to leave ANY defense against a possible stab against one another in a game where everybody else is a stranger and does not have that luxury.

I don't really care on that - it's just a game, and there are no prizes. I personally wouldn't join a game where I knew I had an inherent advantage via knowing another player (unless we all knew one another), but that's me. Wouldn't feel right to me. My only thing is I feel that people should always play to win, and I see things happen at the other side of the map that go directly opposite that. I'm watching "play to be able to stay in the game a bit longer as somebody's pet before they finally decide to consume me".
09 May 15 UTC Spring, 2003: To ally with someone simply because you've allied with them in the past or are allied with them in another game IS cheating.

I may well have played in other games with wulfie, but I don't know him/her any more than I know you. I don't have the time to look back into my playing history each time I start a new game to see if I have played any of the other players before, then see if I have allied with them before, then see if they stabbed me before, etc etc etc. This is a 12 hour phase game, I sleep and I work!

Have a look at my stats. Is my win percentage at such lofty heights that you believe I am regularly playing people familiar to me and gaining an advantage from that?

I recently played a f2f game with six other webdippers in a pub in east London. Do I now not play them ever again on this site because I know them and have an unfair advantage in playing them now?
09 May 15 UTC Spring, 2003: (2ndWhiteLine): Please do not make any cheating accusations in global cheat. Email webdipmod@gmail.com with any suspicions.

In a case like this, game history by itself is hardly indicative of metagaming. If you play on this site a lot, you inevitably end up playing the same players multiple times, especially if you favor variants, which usually have a smaller rotation of regular players. Personally, I play regular games with about a dozen different players on the site, several of whom I've met at F2F events, and metagaming is never an issue because we're experienced enough to realize the drawbacks inherent in allying with one player every game.

To sum up - there's no metagaming going on here :)

WebDip Admin
10 May 15 UTC Autumn, 2003: *Shrug* You have 30 pages of games. I only did a ctrl-f namesearch on your *first page* and found 3 common games on it alone. You can say you don't have an inherent advantage because you guys know each other on some level ad infinitum, but it won't change the fact that that's the perception (right or wrong) people such as myself are going to have when we look at a map and see a *complete* level of trust to the point that entire sectors are left completely undefended.

It doesn't matter - it's just a game w/ no prizes. It leaves a little bit of a bad taste on the tongue, but whatever. There are always more.
10 May 15 UTC Autumn, 2003: You're paranoid. It ain't happening. Moderators confirmed. Other games are coincidental. We do not know each other.
10 May 15 UTC Autumn, 2003: And BC, you now know that it is not acceptable to make cheating accusations here (yes I know you have not used the word "cheating" but the actions you suggest I am doing are cheating as defined by the site rules). The mods are satisfied that nothing is amiss. If you continue you will get yourself banned! And I am reaching the point where I will request that you are as I don't like what you are suggesting. POlease stop now!
11 May 15 UTC Spring, 2004: Can't seem to catch build phases
13 May 15 UTC Autumn, 2004: All of BC's talk, and now he misses a phase (quit?)?
14 May 15 UTC Spring, 2005: This is a new bc
14 May 15 UTC Spring, 2005: i took over mexico talk to me
17 May 15 UTC Autumn, 2006: Awwwwwwwwww, Cuba wants to take his ball and go home. Boooooo hooooooo.
17 May 15 UTC Spring, 2007: Alright, kids. Play nicely! :)
17 May 15 UTC Spring, 2007: Well I get tired of playing when multiple nations drop out.
17 May 15 UTC Spring, 2007: First Florida, then Mexico ... It simply messes everything up.
17 May 15 UTC Spring, 2007: Don't forget BC. Two BCs have quit this one!
18 May 15 UTC Autumn, 2007: GameMaster: N3M3SI5 was banned: multi/meta/no reply. The time until the next phase has been extended by one phase length to give an opportunity to replace the player.
Remember to finalize your orders if you don't want to wait, so the game isn't held up unnecessarily!
20 May 15 UTC Autumn, 2009: I was about to suggest a 3-way draw, but now that Peru has stabbed me in the back, I need vengeance!!!
20 May 15 UTC Spring, 2010: I would hardly call that a stab. Our peace treaty died with Cuba. I am of course agreeable to a 3 way draw. Not sure heartland will, as it looks like he's ready to solo by taking ank, Mexico and Florida. I will be staying in South America.
20 May 15 UTC Spring, 2010: Just to clarify, my vengeance comment was all in fun! :)
21 May 15 UTC Spring, 2010: No worries. :)
21 May 15 UTC Spring, 2010: So I am moving back into my box. If you need help NY let me know.
22 May 15 UTC Autumn, 2011: Isn't this more fun than a draw? :)
22 May 15 UTC Autumn, 2011: It actually is :) especially as we are both gonna get loads of points anyway, so lets see what the natural conclusion is :)
22 May 15 UTC Autumn, 2011: can you make that private chat jerks?
22 May 15 UTC Autumn, 2011: Sorry. Not meaning to disrespect. Just a game.
25 May 15 UTC Spring, 2014: Interesting. Peru is here almost 2hrs ago and still we wait till phase end?
25 May 15 UTC Spring, 2014: and Guadalajara????
25 May 15 UTC Spring, 2014: Guadalajara = Scrapper! Never give up! :)
25 May 15 UTC Autumn, 2014: sorry, I was busy, checked on my phone and thought I would get in on the wire...alas...

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New-York
rbunnell3 (213 D)
Won. Bet: 10 D, won: 68 D
34 supply-centers, 28 units
Heartland
Check_mate (100 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D, won: 44 D
22 supply-centers, 24 units
Peru
Beaumont (1259 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D, won: 4 D
2 supply-centers, 2 units
Cuba
Drummer Man (2767 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
California
ahdfuoa (107 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
British-Columbia
bangbang300 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 6 D
Texas
Wulfie13jr (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Quebec
Semmelweis (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Mexico
N3M3SI5 (25 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Florida
Lemona9e (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Civil Disorders
moela (250 D)Mexico (Spring, 2005) with 9 centres.
N3M3SI5 (25 D X)Mexico (Autumn, 2007) with 12 centres.
Quintious (100 D)British-Columbia (Autumn, 2004) with 6 centres.
bangbang300 (100 D)British-Columbia (Spring, 2006) with 5 centres.
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