Congratulations to TheFlyingBoat for finishing second at Tempest!

Finished: 10 AM Sun 26 Apr 15 UTC
Tradish-2
1 day, 12 hours /phase
Pot: 423 D - Spring, 1911, Finished
Classic, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
30 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1904: Austria would you just die already. We need not a narrator, we need a general.
31 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1904: Don't blame the poor, weak Austrians for your inabilities to see the future!
31 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1904: Nobody can "see" the future, all you do is yell predictions. Taunting, daunting predictions.
03 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1905: Looks like a stab is about to be unleashed.
04 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1905: Does look that way.
12 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1907: Germany and Russia, we need to form a stalemate line against Turkey or shift our troops over one so that Turkey doesn't get to 12 before any of us get to 9. As we're currently set up we are only able to take from each other and not from Turkey. Italy ust left the game and even though I'll get down there as fast as I can I can only hold off the fleets he has down there for a little while. If he gets to Warsaw, Tyrolia, Munich or St. Petersburg before we settle our shit we're all going to lose a lot of points.

What I propose is Russia moving his troops back towards his home centres and German troops moving towards Vienna, Trieste and Budapest. I can take over Italy in a naval fight if he is losing centres on his other fronts. Russia can take back Rumania and Sevast with German support and we can all join (assuming our alliance lasts that long) for an assault on the remainder of Turkey.

We need to rebalance the game or we are all going to lose. I'm the closest to Turkey's army strength and he is above me by 5. We can't win if we keep fighting.

I propose Germany hold off on taking Sweden for one additional build turn so that Russia can get to Edinburg and take it from me. Germany will go up two this year when he only has two locations to build anyway, Russia only goes down one and doesn't lose his front on Turkey as a result. I don't go down for a year and can get a better hold on Turkey when he has Venice, Naples and we're fighting over Tunis as I see happening in the next year.

This is a moderate pot game, lets act like we can actually be diplomatic in this game and deal with the biggest threat on the board.
12 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1907: plz
12 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1907: If you agree to this then say so here and plan in private your sections from Silesia to Galicia and down. That area is going to be under Turkish threat by next year
12 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1907: Denmark could move to Sweden with Baltic support and this plan would work just as well
12 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1907: Well for the record, I think this isn't a good plan for Russia and Germany. It is a great plan for France, especially now that he has all of England and is about to move into Norway, Sweden and St Pete.

Telling Russia to retreat to his centers is blatantly self serving.

Be careful that you give up your backside to France when he has a one track mind. To take me down.

I will work with anyone to establish a supportable bounce line and call it a draw. But I won't let anyone take back what I've earned.
12 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1907: Giving him edinburg doesn't quite sound like an invasion plan.
13 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1907: I want to work toward a draw. Realistically only Turkey has a chance at a solo win at this point. I'm willing to work with whoever votes draw.
13 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1907: No, realistically whatever side has 50% + 1 can decide the board, and turkey only has like 30%.

When one plan fails don't keep at the plan until everything collapses, just make a new plan.

It is not very difficult to think this through.
13 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1907: Germany please don't doom us all.
13 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1907: Looks like Germany is using a French strategy, "get mine before anyone else does." France has done nothing for anyone but himself with the exception of keeping Italy in the game until he can take their SC's just like he took England's.

France is going for a secret solo I think.

I support Germany and will be happy to share a draw with him. France, not so much, but if I have to.... I will keep Russia in the game if I can just because I feel guilty.
13 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1907: I'm secretly going to take what SC exactly? Seriously, don't just give a broad statement with no proof.

What moves can I make Turkey. I can't take Naples, or Tunis. I've been supporting Venice for the past while and couldn't take it if I wanted to. None of my units are close to German SC or Russian SC and I provided a way for everyone to deal with you.

You're just pissed off because now you're boxed in. Next time you throw an allegation try thinking beforehand - otherwise you sound like a pompous ass
13 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1907: Also I've helped Germany and I *just* said Russia could have Edinburg. The only person who has attacked their ally (Russia) and everyone in their reach (Austria and you've been trying to attack Italy) is you.

You *are* aware that we were all here during this game, right? And that we can just look at the previous turns with the previous turn button? It's like you're incapable of thought.
14 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1907: http://i.imgur.com/pwI8qNt.png
14 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1907: Taking things a little personally are we France? I guess playing the game must be pretty hard on you. It must be tiring bossing everyone, trying to throw me under the bus and pulling your hair out.

I meant it when I said good luck and enjoy the game, I know I am enjoying myself. One last thing to our other smart players, I play to win, but recognize when winning isn't worth it.

Just another day in paradise here in diplomacy
14 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1907: Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
14 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1907: I can't tell if that was a subtle threat or me investigating too far into your game history. You're fun.
14 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1907: Thanks guys. Good luck all.
14 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1907: I say Italy gets the axe and then draw.
14 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1908: I'm ready for a draw whenever. This game is just going to end in a stalemate anyway.
16 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1908: I call multi on Germany - Turkey. There is no way somebody is this stupid.
16 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1908: GG
17 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1909: GameMaster: RejectedLogic was banned: multi. The time until the next phase has been extended by one phase length to give an opportunity to replace the player.
Remember to finalize your orders if you don't want to wait, so the game isn't held up unnecessarily!
17 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1909: LOL
17 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1909: I call multi- gets banned for multi
17 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1909: Guys can we just draw this one?
17 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1909: LOL
17 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1909: Wow, that's really something. He wasn't very experienced, this was only his 5 game I think.
18 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1909: Hi Folks. New France here. I'm not sure of all the back story, but it sure looks interesting!!
18 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1909: Welcome to the game !
23 Apr 15 UTC Spring, 1910: Turkey -- just so you know... Germany and I both want a 3-way draw. We are both just a bit worried about your strength and we figured it was better to be safe than sorry. Once the fall phase is done and Russia is out, I will vote draw.
23 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: Ok i request that russia not be allowed to take moscow or sevastopol. I will move to sev and rumania and ask that st pete move to moscow so russia has no move to a sc. If russia is eliminated i will also vote for draw.
23 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: Yep - let's go for the draw.
23 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: I will move to Moscow.
23 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: I will move to Moscow.
23 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: I will move to Moscow.
23 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: I will move to Moscow.
23 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: I will move to Moscow.
23 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: WARSAW will need to support StP to Moscow -- otherwise russia can bounce in Moscow (from Ukr) and keep ownership of moscow.
23 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: Before I enter my orders -- Turkey, can you confirm that you have supported StP to Moscow? I don't want this to go on for another year.
23 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: PS. Sorry Russia!!
23 Apr 15 UTC Autumn, 1910: Here are my only moves:
war support stp - mos
mos - sev
gal - rum
vie - gal

Once Russia disbands I will vote for a draw.
24 Apr 15 UTC Draw
24 Apr 15 UTC Yup -- you need to vote for it.
24 Apr 15 UTC ;) ....couldn't do that with iPad
24 Apr 15 UTC Well fellas, it's been interesting. I'm disappointed I couldn't solo. France did a fine job keeping me at bat in the med, there is no way I could get the 2 SC's I needed unless France lost SC's up north.

I'm not sure why a draw is better for Germany, a survival status with 12 SC's gets more points than a 3 way. But he did a fine job stopping me cold in Europe, so a draw is all that's left.

See you in another game, happy to play with you all anytime. That includes Russia, Austria, England and Italy.

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Turkey
Crash Casey (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 50 D, won: 141 D
16 supply-centers, 16 units
France
dgibson987 (4565 D)
Drawn. Bet: 73 D, won: 141 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
Germany
Miguel1612 (455 D)
Drawn. Bet: 50 D, won: 141 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
Austria
Kasz (728 D)
Defeated. Bet: 50 D
Italy
kastec (334 D)
Defeated. Bet: 50 D
Russia
AR47 (100 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 50 D
England
nicknukem (73 D)
Defeated. Bet: 50 D
Civil Disorders
RejectedLogic (0 D X)France (Spring, 1909) with 10 centres.
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