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Finished: 05 PM Sun 30 Nov 14 UTC
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5 minutes /phase
Pot: 140 D - Spring, 1914, Finished
Classic, No messaging, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
30 Nov 14 UTC GG, well played all (except for green)
30 Nov 14 UTC GG
30 Nov 14 UTC Green played fine. Your fault for both
1) Not eliminating him before
2) Threatening the solo
30 Nov 14 UTC Well thanks there ILN, gg to you to
30 Nov 14 UTC same split, 10 SC's down
30 Nov 14 UTC Green, you are the biggest scrub-lord back stabbing piece of s***.

That was perhaps the most disgraceful and douchy stab i have ever seen. Also, if you're going to stab, know when and how. You picked the worst possible time to stab.

Congratulations.
30 Nov 14 UTC Yeah, thd, you could have had a solo or at least been above 10 centers if you had planned that out better. You could have destroyed me in Iberia without a problem. You just had to clean up first in the east. If you had put Tuscany in Piedmont instead of that fleet, you would have beaten Austria without trouble.

Good game, I guess. Whatever that mess was. Let's agree never to talk about it again.

Valis, can I PM you?
30 Nov 14 UTC I got pissed off IRL when you stabbed.
30 Nov 14 UTC Someone also needs to tell JamesYanik to confirm his fucking retreats.
30 Nov 14 UTC Yes, please PM me.
30 Nov 14 UTC ikr
30 Nov 14 UTC weirdest game i ever played
30 Nov 14 UTC …isn't that kind of the point?
30 Nov 14 UTC …isn't that kind of the point?
30 Nov 14 UTC No. You don't stab an ally when there is a player that's inching closer to a Solo. You don't stab Austria when Germany is taking over everyone. It's perhaps the most stupid choice to make.
30 Nov 14 UTC Were it not for England and me, germany would have soloed.
30 Nov 14 UTC I don't think it was stupid to stab you. He could have made it work if he made the move in the fall, though you might have had it defended by then. He also would have been able to defeat you if his army that he planted in Tuscany went to Piedmont and cut Tyrolia instead of simply using the fleet as a placeholder. It was a waste of two units that you took advantage of easily. He also wouldn't have been so easily conquered if he had supported Venice instead of trying to support Trieste for no real reason - the disband sent enough of a message of peace as far as I'm concerned.
30 Nov 14 UTC England stopped my solo, but he wouldn't have been able to hold me forever. I wasn't aggressive enough. I tried to give away a center to Italy and I kept meddling around in Scandinavia, trying to bait England into leaving it unguarded, rather than simply going for it. Once I missed my chance there, I had no solo shot.
30 Nov 14 UTC His plays were terrible. I was loling when he moved a fleet to piedmont instead of his army in tuscany. With an army in tuscany he could have taken tyrolia and then trieste easily.

My greatest mistake in this game was when i allowed Turkey to get into Rumania. I changed the order but it was too late and my unit had already moved out...
30 Nov 14 UTC I saw openings and I took advantage of them. Looking back on it there are probably some things I could have done different. All in all, not bad for my second gunboat ever (maybe third I'd have to check)
30 Nov 14 UTC Also, i trusted Green way too much. I looked at his profile and saw that he's sorta noobish so i thought that maybe i could help him out. Big mistake. never again.
30 Nov 14 UTC You did fine Italy. He's salty he couldn't even make a stalemate line but had to pre-maturely draw due to his ineptitude.
30 Nov 14 UTC Well if it's your third gunboat then i guess that explains it, but the stab. Man the stab made me rage. The most fun i had this game was when i took venice and rome lol.
30 Nov 14 UTC Is anyone else thinking that we could have had this four-way draw an hour ago if Austria had simply let Italy take out Turkey o_O
30 Nov 14 UTC @England, well, i could have retaken Naples in time, and finished off green in Turkey, allowing me more builds which i could have used up in Russia. But i got impatient.
30 Nov 14 UTC Well, i was voting for a draw the whole time, i was waiting for you to do so as well, but your draw never time. Admit you were aiming for the solo...
30 Nov 14 UTC @Austria, WUT do you know how this game's stalemate lines work? you LITERALLY could not get into STP
30 Nov 14 UTC Yeah…that would have been nice. And it's my fifth technically, but one was on that stupid Med map and two were like a year ago before I took my hiatus from the site. But anyway, I had fun. Thanks guys.
30 Nov 14 UTC ILN, I put my draw vote up. Once England put his up, I took mine down, because the only player left was Italy and I don't want to depend on someone else being smart and waiting until the player is eliminated to draw. I've made that mistake plenty of times before. Sorry that you didn't see it - that would have made life easier.
30 Nov 14 UTC Also, thd, step it up in mafia ;)
30 Nov 14 UTC @Normally yes, but i would have tried some sneaky shit
30 Nov 14 UTC but yea, gg........................
30 Nov 14 UTC Pray tell how in a gunboat you "try some sneak shit" to get a doubly support STP from LIV/MOS.
30 Nov 14 UTC I'm serious. I'm always trying to learn more about the game.
30 Nov 14 UTC Its' gunboat you can't even fake out Germany that you'll totally not attack it. If you just held every turn hoping you can correctly guess when he goes for Norway?
30 Nov 14 UTC I could have waited for him to make the mistake of taking Moscow, and then counter attack, destroying his army. though realistically, yea its pretty much impossible.

Though, what i feared the whole time, was germany moving st petes to livonia and sweden to st petes. That would have ended the game.
30 Nov 14 UTC Lol, Germany wasn't an idiot. Anyway, even if he got St. Petersburg, it's impossible to hold it from the south. That's why I didn't fight you for it right away. I waited until you fell asleep and let me into Scandinavia. Given another year, I would have kicked you out.

Austria could have taken out Italy. It wouldn't be impossible. Had you simply stayed back and built a stalemate wall instead of getting up in his face like you did, he would have been able to do it pretty easily.
30 Nov 14 UTC I could have waited for him to make the mistake of taking Moscow, and then counter attack, destroying his army. though realistically, yea its pretty much impossible.

Though, what i feared the whole time, was germany moving st petes to livonia and sweden to st petes. That would have ended the game.
30 Nov 14 UTC i hate russia
30 Nov 14 UTC We all do. You shouldn't have handed me Warsaw though. You can't be buildless and then fight for Scandinavia and expect to survive.
30 Nov 14 UTC I love Russia. I just got a solo off of it today/yesterday.
30 Nov 14 UTC You have so many options! So many units! It's great!
30 Nov 14 UTC and bosox with warsaw, i literally didnt see your moves until it was too late. it was like camouflage!
30 Nov 14 UTC Lol, all right. That's an excuse I haven't heard before, but okay.
30 Nov 14 UTC Bo, why pressure WAR but let him into SWE?
30 Nov 14 UTC I didn't let him into Sweden. I supported you there and you didn't take it. You let him into Sweden. Again, check the orders.
30 Nov 14 UTC OH that's what you're talking about wow sorry yeah I missed that.
30 Nov 14 UTC Lol, that wasn't the only one.
30 Nov 14 UTC Yeah four times >.< I don't know why that didn't trigger my spidey sense now I'm really embarrassed.

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Austria
ILN (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 20 D, won: 35 D
13 supply-centers, 13 units
Germany
bo_sox48 (4844 D Mod (G))
Drawn. Bet: 20 D, won: 35 D
11 supply-centers, 10 units
England
Valis2501 (2057 D (G))
Drawn. Bet: 20 D, won: 35 D
7 supply-centers, 7 units
Italy
thdfrance (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 20 D, won: 35 D
3 supply-centers, 3 units
Russia
JamesYanik (548 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
France
Ben K (383 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Turkey
whaskell (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Civil Disorders
Ben K (383 D)France (Autumn, 1907) with 0 centres.
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