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Finished: 08 AM Thu 04 Feb 10 UTC
Private League B1 Autumn 2009, Game 2
1 day, 1 hours /phase
Pot: 35 D - Autumn, 1904, Finished
Classic, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
10 Nov 09 UTC Spring, 1902: ! What ! No.... >.< Ugh. :(
15 Nov 09 UTC Autumn, 1903: WTF??
18 Nov 09 UTC Autumn, 1903: Everyone, I will be traveling all next week for Thanksgiving and will not be able to be online starting Friday 20 Nov-29 Nov. I am requesting a pause to game 2. I may not need it in game 1 as I may not be around much longer.
18 Nov 09 UTC Autumn, 1903: No problem. Should we already vote for a pause?
18 Nov 09 UTC Autumn, 1903: I am fine with a pause. ^.^
18 Nov 09 UTC Spring, 1904: I was figuring we all vote pause now and he can finalize the pause whenever hes leaving.
21 Nov 09 UTC Well it look sliek this won't pause as some ahve not entered the pause. If I come back in a week and the game has progressed...such is life.
29 Nov 09 UTC I am back...thanks for the pause.
03 Jan 10 UTC sooooo... this game has been paused for a good month now...
05 Jan 10 UTC I wouldn't be opposed to calling the first two games as Feanor suggested in one of the emails and devoting all our time to the last two. How far behind the rest of the tournament are we?
06 Jan 10 UTC 3rd games started just before Christmas.
19 Jan 10 UTC Maybe we should just conclude both excessively delayed games and make a fresh start on the third?
20 Jan 10 UTC I am OK with that. Honestly I have forgotten who is my friend and who is my enemy in both games.
21 Jan 10 UTC only thing i would say about canceling the first two is that it doesn't leave very many points out there in the field
31 Jan 10 UTC Germany, if you unpause, the game will go on.
31 Jan 10 UTC Marek, we have 3 people CD. Please explain why you want to continue this. Any play beyond this point is not representative of legitimate tournament play.
31 Jan 10 UTC If I understand it correctly, if we draw the game now, all 7 players will be included. I don't think it's OK. If you want to end the game immediately, let's cancel it without a result.
31 Jan 10 UTC If we draw the game now only the 4 remaining players get a cut in it.
31 Jan 10 UTC Are you sure that both points and GhostRating work this way?
31 Jan 10 UTC I am fairly certain it works for points and see no reason for it not to be the same for Ghost Ratings. I sent Ghostmaker a PM to double-check.
31 Jan 10 UTC Marek has stated a very noble point. If we draw both games, the four continuous players will have a head start in points when competing for league position.

Under normal circumstances, this is not a problem. The game rule clearly states that substitute players will only get points for games they play, and are not in equal footing with the original players (well, they are usually from the lower leagues, and are given the opportunity to promote, which is already the appeal).

However, when 3 players got CD, the situation is rather extreme. I suppose Marek raised the issue whether we should treat the league with substitutes as a new league, right?

I am ok to either draw or cancel the game. The moderator, as expressed in the email, tend to follow the old rule and draw. What do the others think?
31 Jan 10 UTC All I want is to finish the two remaining games now. Time is becoming very constrained for me as well. I did not expect the games to run till February. Well, I am becoming a father soon. And honestly, the well being of my twin boys is way more important than that of the Czar, archduke, sultan or queen...
01 Feb 10 UTC Congratulations Laoban, that's fantastic! I wish you and yours all the best!
02 Feb 10 UTC "Sun 04 PM If we draw the game now only the 4 remaining players get a cut in it.
Sun 05 PM Are you sure that both points and GhostRating work this way?
Sun 05 PM I am fairly certain it works for points and see no reason for it not to be the same for Ghost Ratings. I sent Ghostmaker a PM to double-check."

Ghost confirmed that only the remaining players get points (both on the site and points toward your GhostRating score)
02 Feb 10 UTC OK, Bugger, could you unpause please? I'll vote for a draw then (in both games).
02 Feb 10 UTC Could you and zscheck vote for the draw first? I don't see why it would need to be unpaused before everyone has the draw vote in.
02 Feb 10 UTC My vote is in.

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Germany
Bugger (3639 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 7 D
8 supply-centers, 8 units
Turkey
MarekP (12867 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 7 D
7 supply-centers, 7 units
Italy
zscheck (2531 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 7 D
5 supply-centers, 5 units
England
Feanor (2777 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 7 D
4 supply-centers, 4 units
France
Laoban (1230 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 7 D
2 supply-centers, 1 units
Russia
Resigned. Bet: 5 D
6 supply-centers, 5 units
Austria
Resigned. Bet: 5 D
2 supply-centers, 2 units
Civil Disorders
El_Perro_Artero (707 D)Russia (Autumn, 1904) with 6 centres.
Friendly Sword (636 D)Austria (Autumn, 1904) with 2 centres.
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