Finished: 12 PM Fri 13 Mar 15 UTC
Patience #1
7 days /phase
Pot: 182 D - Autumn, 1908, Finished
Classic, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by A_Tin_Can (2244 D)
13 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: I'm back home! Thanks everybody for your understanding, let's unpause this.
13 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: Everything ok, succesfull operation?
13 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: Welcome back.
19 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: I suspect that Russia might not really be back...
19 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: should we look for someone else to take over? like we did for England?
19 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: may be we should pause the game?
19 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: if enough people want to we could draw or cancel this game.
Not that I'm not enjoying the game but the 7 day phase is insane.
20 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: I actually kinda like the 7 day. don't need to check the site as often, so it takes less of my time.
20 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: I would prefer not to draw, and I'm hoping we don't need to cancel either. There's a good chance Russia will be back shortly.

If we all vote to pause, then we can get a mod to pause the game if Russia doesn't return.
20 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: Agree, I won't vote for draw
20 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: Would you vote for a pause? If you vote, then we have the option of pausing the game if Russia doesn't return.
20 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: Sorry, I wanted to say ( but I made a mistake) that I do not support the pause
20 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: The cancel or draw can be an option
20 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: We can't get a moderator pause without agreement from everyone who's still here.

If italy isn't prepared to pause, then I guess we just wait to see if Russia is coming back before we do anything.

I do think a short pause is reasonable- russia is clearly having health issues, and may return to let us know what's up soon.
20 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: I think a pause is reasonable too.
20 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: If Italy is not willing, and is adamant about not pausing, then i can agree to a draw.
20 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: I don't particually want to draw (since this game isn't really a draw anyway). I think it's better to cancel or play on. I've voted accordingly.
20 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: For those who have yet to enter orders, I reckon you probably should- since this game won't be paused unless italy changes their mind.
21 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: I wasn't even on. assumed that this would be paused. looks like austria thought the same. I think at this point with Russia gone this game just lost its fun factor. well at least for me :)
21 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: I was enjoying this game a lot, but if the consensus is to end the game, I'd be happy to end it in a cancel. I am obviously advantaged by his NMR.

Whether we draw or cancel, we have to wait for Russia to CD.

I don't want to draw the game - If we draw, he gets a CD on his record, but if we cancel, he doesn't. He's clearly not absent because of a reliability problem - he's probably just had to go back to hospital. Because of that, I'd prefer to leave him with a cleaner record. It's the least we can do.
23 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: hey everyone, can we pls cancel this game already?
24 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: An alternative is to advertise the position, but I think it is incredibly unlikely that anyone will take it.
25 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: England just draw it so we can get a moderator to end the game.
25 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: As above, I think a cancel is more appropriate.
25 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: Its not our fault Russia is having medical issues. I of course feel bad for the guy but really that doesn't mean we should disregard all the work we've done for the past 3 months.
25 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: These issues have also been pretty recent and haven't affected the majority of the game.
25 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: An alternative argument is that it's not appropriate for us to have a draw on *our* records either - this game isn't even close to a draw result yet.

Anyway, just as italy didn't have to pause, I don't have to draw.

I will be happy to cancel this game though - if we get a consensus vote from the players, then we can get a moderator to push the vote through even though Russia hasn't voted.
26 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: I honestly don't care whether we draw or cancel, but i see England's point. the game is still in the early phases, so it makes sense to cancel. At the end of the day, it's just a game. so let's be reasonable and close this one. it's not like we are gaining anything by being adamant about finishing it, it's just for fun.
27 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: It's funny to see how England and France who are on the way to winning the game are willing to cancel, but Austria and Italy are not.
27 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: France is also willing to draw, while England is the only one not willing to.
27 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: As England has the right not to draw it me and Italy have the right not to cancel it.
10 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1904: I don't know how this works but will Russia go into Civil Disorder after this turn or do we have to get the mod to remove him, so we don't have to wait for his moves?
10 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1904: after missing 2 phases in a row a country usually goes into CD
10 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1904: cool, good to know. so should be this turn then
11 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1904: PSA: England is going to win this game unless we do something to stop it. Its time to put away individual interests and push for a draw. Yeah a 5 way split isn't great but its better than nothing.
11 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1904: yeah i've been saying that all along.but some people don't wanna listen.
11 Dec 14 UTC Autumn, 1904: Have you, Turkey? That's very interesting :)

To France- this is a Points Per Supply Centre game, which encourages strong seconds. So, there's not a lot of incentive to stop a solo run unless it takes (many) centres from you. Italy, Austria and Turkey have nothing to worry about from an English solo.

Lastly, I'm still down to cancel this game. I entered these moves expecting a cancel - I would have stuck with France if I thought this game was going to play out.
11 Dec 14 UTC Autumn, 1904: well austria thinks he is gonna win the game, so why should he cancel.
12 Dec 14 UTC Autumn, 1904: I still don't think it's appropriate to draw this game at this point - but I won't go on about it. However, if we go to play on, I'll be taking my cancel vote down at the end of next game year.
13 Dec 14 UTC Autumn, 1904: Hello world. Taking over a ruined nation with 2 SCs left is not the best deal, but I thought this game needed a new spin. Plus I like it when it never ends :)
13 Dec 14 UTC Autumn, 1904: Thanks for joining us :)
14 Dec 14 UTC Autumn, 1904: Well, that was unexpected. Thanks for taking over Russia! This game just got a whole lot more interesting.
23 Feb 15 UTC Autumn, 1906: That was a dirty one, England :)
Anyway, Austria already ruined the game... and PPSC is definitely not for me.
So long, guys, see you around!
23 Feb 15 UTC Autumn, 1906: yeah Austria just ruined everything. Good game.
24 Feb 15 UTC Autumn, 1906: The impeding Austrian CD is pretty disappointing. I don't think I'll be playing another 7-day phase game.
24 Feb 15 UTC Autumn, 1906: For me longer term games are better, because I don't waste too much of my time on a daily basis :) but yeah it does suck when someone goes CD after all that time.
04 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1907: now that it's only the four of us left and England is about to win, can we just speed things up?
04 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1907: Fine with me.
04 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1907: sorry about the delay
04 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 1907: Are you guys waiting for me to take over Austria now? :)

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England
A_Tin_Can (2244 D)
Won. Bet: 26 D, won: 100 D
19 supply-centers, 16 units
Turkey
pirpir (245 D)
Survived. Bet: 20 D, won: 56 D
10 supply-centers, 9 units
Italy
udvarid (221 D)
Survived. Bet: 20 D, won: 23 D
4 supply-centers, 3 units
France
djz5 (346 D)
Survived. Bet: 20 D, won: 6 D
1 supply-centers, 3 units
Austria
DuncCharles (100 D)
Resigned. Bet: 20 D
0 supply-centers, 1 units
Russia
Watson (1296 D (B))
Defeated. Bet: 16 D
Germany
Ironclad (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Civil Disorders
Enture (0 D X)Russia (Spring, 1904) with 3 centres.
Lackbeard (262 D)England (Autumn, 1902) with 5 centres.
DuncCharles (100 D)Austria (Autumn, 1906) with 6 centres.
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