Congratulations to TheFlyingBoat for finishing second at Tempest!

Finished: 07 AM Sat 15 Nov 14 UTC
Featured The world is yours.
1 day, 12 hours /phase
Pot: 919 D - Spring, 2020, Finished
World Diplomacy IX, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
23 Aug 14 UTC Spring, 2006: [Frozen-Antarctica]:Welcome China!
26 Aug 14 UTC Autumn, 2006: [Quebec]:Frozen Antarctica can you please ready your retreats?
01 Sep 14 UTC Autumn, 2007: [India]:Please vote pause I'm requesting a moderator pause now. Personal issues
04 Sep 14 UTC Spring, 2008: [Quebec]:Nations of the world, see before you an alliance of tremendous ferocity, China and Argentina. They have combined 30 SCs between them, and will not stop gaining more territory at your expense. Let's cast away our petty disputes and unite singularly against this vastly more resourceful juggernaut.
05 Sep 14 UTC Spring, 2008: [Argentina]:I think its funny that you see me and China as a "juggernaut". Just because YOU attacked me, and China supports me into a province without even telling me he was going to support, you feel the need to go cry for help to the world because you know you made a mistake. Maybe I will start working with China, it seems like a good suggestion. In the mean time, who really is fighting China and I right now? Oh look, its USA and Quebec. I guess a logical inference from that point would be that if China and Argentina were to start falling, their spoils would go almost entirely to those two countries, which would make TRUE juggernauts with about 50 SC between the two o f them. We aren't as stupid as you think we are
05 Sep 14 UTC Spring, 2008: [Quebec]:And I do not wish my intelligence nor my honesty to be insulted. Wayyyy back in Spring 2006, China offered me a place in an alliance with Argentina and himself. Do not even attempt to claim that you had no formal contact regarding an alliance. USA will affirm for me that I approached him about a Chinese-Argentinian alliance years ago.
05 Sep 14 UTC Spring, 2008: [Argentina]:Does China speak for me?
05 Sep 14 UTC Spring, 2008: [Quebec]:Also, your argument that the spoils would only go to the USA and me is rather laughably pathetic. How, for instance, do you expect me or USA to capture Delhi before someone like Libya gets there first? Or the South Pole? I want only that the world unite against the strongest two powers on the board to stop them dominating everyone (Libya and Ghana, I'm looking at you guys)
05 Sep 14 UTC Spring, 2008: [Quebec]:The current conflicts are as thus: Quebec-Russia (hopefully will be resolved); Russia-Libya; Libya-Ghana. China and Argentina rub their hands in glee as they swoop in through the Indian and Atlantic oceans to take advantage of your disorder. End these petty feuds and focus on the real enemies.
05 Sep 14 UTC Autumn, 2008: [Argentina]:You forgot (USA and Quebec) Vs. Argentina
05 Sep 14 UTC Autumn, 2008: [Argentina]:and (USA and Quebec) Vs. China
06 Sep 14 UTC Autumn, 2008: [Quebec]:Good, and I urge all other countries to follow USA and my example.
09 Sep 14 UTC Autumn, 2008: [China]:Please submit and ready your orders...I am dying to see which units Libya disbands. I am building two fleets.
09 Sep 14 UTC Spring, 2009: [Quebec]:And I'm also dying to see whether Libya will work with Ghana against the China-Argentina juggernaut.
18 Sep 14 UTC Autumn, 2010: [Quebec]:All who don't want China to win, vote draw.
18 Sep 14 UTC Autumn, 2010: [Ghana]:But this has no sense... China will not vot draw...:)
18 Sep 14 UTC Autumn, 2010: [Quebec]:Exactly. So we need to unite as a world to force China to draw.
28 Sep 14 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Quebec]:At this stage, I think that I'll take the time to congratulate China on a well deserved win. He has no weaknesses, and the only player in a position to stab him (Argentina) had forgone that possibility. So, thanks to certain countries, China will walk out of this game with nearly a thousand credits, that which is constituted by bets from each and every player.
29 Sep 14 UTC Autumn, 2012: [China]:Nice try Quebec, but Argentina and Ghana are very loyal allies who will share the prize in a three way draw. Keep up the good fight.
30 Sep 14 UTC Spring, 2013: [Quebec]:There is no prize. This is a winner-takes-all game. Nice try, China. In the event of a draw, EVERYONE gets 0 credits.
30 Sep 14 UTC Spring, 2013: [Quebec]:China has only one goal in mind: To win. He has come this far, he will not stop. He won't "draw three way" with anyone. Remember, this game is winner-takes-all: he has a huge incentive. If you continue helping him, he WILL stab you and win.
30 Sep 14 UTC Spring, 2013: [Quebec]:Ghana and Argentina - there is no sharing of the prize in a three way draw, because this is winner-takes-all. That means that everyone gets 0 in a three way draw. Do you think China will allow this to happen? He will STAB you and Argentina to get his full 919 credits, with you guys getting nothing! He's using you!
30 Sep 14 UTC Spring, 2013: [China]:Quit spreading disinformation Quebec, you are wrong about WTA. Winner-Takes-All only works if someone gets a solo win. In the draw, the members split the prize equally. Nice try again.
30 Sep 14 UTC Spring, 2013: [Quebec]:Oh really? look through any finished winner-takes-all game that has ended in a draw. The pot will NOT be split in a draw. It is you who is spreading false information.
30 Sep 14 UTC Spring, 2013: [China]:Straight from the help section...
"Draws
Sometimes a game can't go any further; two or more players have arranged their units so that the other players can only hold their position. In these cases the game is a draw, and the points are split equally among all the surviving players, regardless of how many supply centers each player has.
Draws can be voted for at any time; if all the players still surviving vote for a draw the points in the game will be split up equally and a share given to each player still surviving. (In a draw a surviving player with 15 supply-centers will get the same number of points as a surviving player with only one!)"

Draws are the same regardless of WTA. You have to "solo" win in WTA to get all the points.
30 Sep 14 UTC Spring, 2013: [Quebec]:Incorrect. Go to http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=148115. See what happened in that game. That section on the draws only apply to games that are not WTA.
30 Sep 14 UTC Spring, 2013: [Quebec]:And by the way, gameID=148115 was a random WTA game I picked from the Finished games tab.
30 Sep 14 UTC Spring, 2013: [China]:The section on draws applies to both PPSC and WTA. If they were different, it would say so. Nice try again.
05 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 2014: [Quebec]:Hi chaps, from the 10th - 24th October, I will be on a trip to Vietnam for a sort of community service thing. I was wondering if it is possible for this game to be paused for the entire duration as I will not have internet in the remote location I'll be going to? The alternative is that I get a minder for the game, but at this critical stage, I'm not comfortable with someone else taking over the controls.
05 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 2014: [China]:I never pause.
05 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 2014: [Ghana]:why did he put pause...:)?
05 Oct 14 UTC Autumn, 2014: [Argentina]:Support cali into Ind, and he will garuntee lose it
06 Oct 14 UTC Autumn, 2014: [Quebec]:If you don't pause, fine, I'll get a minder.
06 Oct 14 UTC Autumn, 2014: [Quebec]:And Ghana, read above regarding my upcoming trip to Vietnam (which is apparently Chinese territory right now lol :D )
25 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 2017: [China]:Did the old Quebec make it back safely from Vietnam? And is he back in control of Quebec?
25 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 2017: [Quebec]:I'm still the sitter, but I believe he returns today. He said the 24th, but depending on where he is, that could be +/- 12 hours from now. He should be back soon.
26 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 2017: [China]:Thanks for the update and sitting for Quebec.
26 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 2017: [Quebec]:Still no word from real Quebec. Hopefully he is back soon. Might be he's jetlagged or something.
27 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 2017: [Argentina]::(
27 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 2017: [Ghana]:I think this is just a joke, the Quebec-guy is playing this i-am-the-sitter bullshit
27 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 2017: [Ghana]:I do not care, he will be vanished sooner or later
27 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 2017: [Quebec]:Hi guys, the actual Quebec is officially back! I've just rested myself and recovered from jetlag.
27 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 2017: [Quebec]:And Ghana, thanks for your words, but you'll be insulting my sitter who's very kindly managed the game in my absence. I hope he takes no offence at your vulgarities.
27 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 2017: [China]:Welcome back Quebec. Ready up! Let's move this gave along.
29 Oct 14 UTC Autumn, 2017: [Quebec]:Oh crap, got used to not having to submit moves :(
12 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 2019: [Argentina]:China, Ghana, we will both draw after this turn, correct?
12 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 2019: [Ghana]:Yes!
13 Nov 14 UTC [China]:Argentina and Ghana...well done, thanks for being loyal allies.
13 Nov 14 UTC [Ghana]:It was a great game, we did it well!
14 Nov 14 UTC [Argentina]:oh thank god that actually distributed the points. I was worried for a while. The notation is weird on the end game, but it actually does distribute... Anyway, good game gents

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China
flc64 (1963 D)
Drawn. Bet: 128 D, won: 306 D
35 supply-centers, 35 units
Argentina
biddybam (484 D)
Drawn. Bet: 40 D, won: 306 D
26 supply-centers, 24 units
Ghana
udvarid (221 D)
Drawn. Bet: 40 D, won: 306 D
25 supply-centers, 25 units
Brazil
disailore (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 40 D
Europe
Dracon33 (139 D)
Defeated. Bet: 40 D
Frozen-Antarctica
Defeated. Bet: 40 D
India
Defeated. Bet: 40 D
Kenya
sheepslayer (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 36 D
Libya
19Sox98 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 40 D
Near-East
Defeated. Bet: 38 D
Pacific-Russia
ghill3 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 37 D
Quebec
LStravaganz (407 D)
Defeated. Bet: 40 D
Russia
lazynomad (227 D)
Defeated. Bet: 40 D
South-Africa
Tyran (938 D)
Defeated. Bet: 40 D
USA
Lake047 (218 D)
Defeated. Bet: 40 D
Western-Canada
Gate (249 D)
Defeated. Bet: 40 D
Oz
JMB22 (2088 D)
Defeated. Bet: 40 D
Civil Disorders
Tyran (938 D)South-Africa (Spring, 2004) with 3 centres.
Bonapart (90 D)Near-East (Spring, 2002) with 4 centres.
disailore (100 D)Brazil (Autumn, 2006) with 0 centres.
Dracon33 (139 D)Europe (Spring, 2006) with 1 centres.
CommanderByron (863 D (S))India (Autumn, 2008) with 2 centres.
TroubledHorizon (100 D)Near-East (Autumn, 2003) with 0 centres.
Obscure Kitten (262 D)China (Autumn, 2005) with 12 centres.
Lake047 (218 D)USA (Autumn, 2011) with 3 centres.
flurbius (100 D)Pacific-Russia (Spring, 2001) with 4 centres.
sheepslayer (100 D)Kenya (Autumn, 2002) with 3 centres.
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