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Finished: 01 PM Sun 19 Jan 14 UTC
Featured Live WTA-GB-160
5 minutes /phase
Pot: 898 D - Autumn, 1907, Finished
Classic, No messaging, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by SplitDiplomat (101279 D)
18 Jan 14 UTC Cooperation, Russia? You kept this stupid game going.
18 Jan 14 UTC You have some explaining to do Germany!
18 Jan 14 UTC Oh I'm just joking Germany... :P
@Barn3tt yeah that sucked :/ Wish Turkey didn't CD though. That woulda made things better.
18 Jan 14 UTC France: I don't know if you have noticed, that I didn't attack Paris, also I put in my draw vote, also I was spporting you to Norway. Your belgian fleet or north sea fleet should have been on english channel faaaar earlier.
18 Jan 14 UTC Oh yeah that's true, Austria.
18 Jan 14 UTC E- if Turkey hadn't cd'd then, yeah, it would have been fine. I appreciate Split keeping the draw/cancel button up for as long as he did.
18 Jan 14 UTC Meet Tibarius guys,the man who want cancel ruined games,the guy because of who I got attacked and humiliated publicly about a game that he didn't want to cancel as well.
18 Jan 14 UTC I done goofed by not bouncing the convoy to Wales. I knew it might happen, but I figured to not fight it since it was spring and I was going to lose London or Liverpool anyway.
18 Jan 14 UTC Losing Spain was also lame,

1907 Spring, you move:
Spain->Portugal, belgium->English, Westen->Spain, Paris Tto burguny and we DRAW!!!!
18 Jan 14 UTC *..who WONT* - sorry.
18 Jan 14 UTC I noticed all those things, but you have to understand what a german army in Burgundy is going to do to my plans...it was stupid and totally screwed up me taking Tunis and eventually trying to stop Italy -- not that he still might not have won.
18 Jan 14 UTC Bleh, I've just about given up on live games at this point. Split, another top 7 game, stat.
18 Jan 14 UTC Split is right, Tibrarius should have cancelled
18 Jan 14 UTC Eh I had my cancel/draw vote from the beginning, pulling cancel a couple of times to try to convince people to swing one way. I don't really care. My record isn't that great so it's not a big deal to me. Great game overall though.
18 Jan 14 UTC MichiganMan, whatever you say, it doesn't change the fact, I had the stalemate line covered, you didn't. All the rest is blablabla
18 Jan 14 UTC I lost Spain because of YOU'RE incursion into Burgundy...Don't do that, I take Tunis and get another fleet in the south. Easy stalemate in the Med. Nice work.
18 Jan 14 UTC Anyone up for another game though? I always get cruddy games with bad players. And here I find quality players :)
18 Jan 14 UTC Or not. I just joined another game. Hope to play with some of you guys again! :)
18 Jan 14 UTC Michiganman, you lost spain, because you lost it ,,, quite simple
18 Jan 14 UTC Spring '05, we had a easy peace for a while Germany. You were fighting England in Scandinavia, Italy was coming for me in the south, had armies in Piedmont and Tyrolia...and you chose to move to Burgundy then?
18 Jan 14 UTC No dipshit, I lost Spain because of a domino that YOU pushed by moving into Burgundy. What POSSIBLE conclusion could I draw from your move to Burgundy?
18 Jan 14 UTC i would play another - SplitDiplomat, if i am in a game i want to play ... i don't wait 3 hours to throw the evening away just one player CDs - everyone is able to adjust the game to it
18 Jan 14 UTC oh, bs, Tibarius. We could have restarted a game in no time.
18 Jan 14 UTC Seems the wrong conclusion, also it doesn't really matter what I did in 1905 if the game still could have been drawn in 1907 right?

You had the position to draw, and you screwed. Period. And didn't do anything to jeopardize it, you made the wrong moves in 1907 spring, and we lost. Nothing matter hat has happend before. That was the last possible moment to save the game and is was solely up to you, nobody else
18 Jan 14 UTC the game SHOULD have been cancelled. And again, Split is the beneficiary of the CD...it's uncanny how many times that happens and Split wins because of it.
18 Jan 14 UTC there is always the risk another game does not start in time - anyway i don't cancel games anymore, because i want to see who goes CD and with whom i play ... and furthermore if SplitDiplomat thinks the game was irregular ... he could have drawn or canceled it still after my defeat
18 Jan 14 UTC I understand the reasoning Tibarius,I allways say that too. CD didn't give me the solo.
You only should have had balls to stop by in the thread and tell the truth about the other game. But you kept your mouth shut like a whore.
18 Jan 14 UTC so - do we argue or play another game?
18 Jan 14 UTC Go fuck yourself Rokakoma...you tried some hairbrained stab for some unknown reason at the worst possible time -- when I was confronting Italy (who was in control of the game). I was going to take Tunis and would have gained a numerical advantage in the Med. Instead, you decided to move to Burgundy -- why? What POSSIBLE purpose could you have in Burgundy at that time? What did you expect me to do? I was FORCED --- by your idiocy -- to back track. I didn't take Tunis, and Italy (because nobody was playing Turkey) gained and built a fleet in the south -- game over.
18 Jan 14 UTC i dunno what other game you are reffering to SplitDiplomat, can you give an id or date or what it was about?
18 Jan 14 UTC Oh huzzah I'm England again in this live gunboat... why?
18 Jan 14 UTC I moved to burgundy because I was afraid you will take holland, and move to belgium. Ift was precautionary, I didn't expect to get in there at all. Later I used it to protect Holland.

But listen, IT DOESN'T matter, because we didn't lost because of burgundy! You can blame me, but the fact is you got angry and furious and threw the game, while you had the position to save it all along.
18 Jan 14 UTC gameID=133933 I have a live game up for anyone to join?
18 Jan 14 UTC @Tibarius I'm talking about the game the other day after which a thread was created and you participated in it.The thread in which I was attacked by two scumbags like MM who were serving lies about the vote buttons...
18 Jan 14 UTC just in case anyone is interested in my thoughts ... france threw the draw away *grins* he could have blocked the mediteran sea and it would have been a f+d+e vs italy draw
18 Jan 14 UTC I should've never took over for Turkey.
18 Jan 14 UTC well, i didn't realy cared about it SplitDiplomat - if you feel upset, sorry
18 Jan 14 UTC Rokakoma, I didn't throw anything, I had to try to protect from you and in the process Italy got stronger and defeated me in the Med. It mattered and you caused it.

@Split, the vast majority of your wins (where I was playing) have come with a significant CD that YOU were the beneficiary of. You can call me (and others) names all you want, EVERYONE knows your M.O., it's uncanny. You should play the lottery -- you'll win, then you can move out of your mom's basement!
18 Jan 14 UTC ^
18 Jan 14 UTC MM, seriously, 1906 spring north africa, misorder. why on earth?
1906 autumn, supported move to spain??? why the fuck, you either boundce and survive, or you get it, you should have chosen north africa->western with support, or mid atlantic back to western.

All the terrible moves to defend, while you didn't need belgium at all, yet I needed new armies to finish england. You were reluctant to give me anything, you made terrible move, and you blame me. nice.
18 Jan 14 UTC We need 3 more... gameID=133933
18 Jan 14 UTC Don't bother roka,you are wasting your time if you think MM will tell anyone ever that somebody else but him is right.He played the game perfectly well (as allways) and everyone else but him is to blame for the loss of Spain!
18 Jan 14 UTC Two more....gameID=133933....
18 Jan 14 UTC come on guys ... Austria ... the chance for a re-match is up now
18 Jan 14 UTC If the game doesn't start I will be willing to start another major gunboat game.
18 Jan 14 UTC Split, thx, but I am willing to take the blame that the move to Burgundy was, well "unlucky". Yet it does not justify the moves after, as MM had plenty of phases to save the game.

From a strategic point of view, burgundy didn't took any SCs from France, neither obstructed him, to build a proper defense in the mediterranean. The only argument against burgundy is, it was a "threat".

Well wake up, this is a war game :) threat are part of it, have you ever considered that? :)
18 Jan 14 UTC gameID=133935 Re-match? new game join up
18 Jan 14 UTC gameID=133935
18 Jan 14 UTC No,Turkey that went CD is to blame that he didn't take Tunis earlier or defended Spain later.
18 Jan 14 UTC Every one gets all worked up on this. LMAO

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Italy
SplitDiplomat (101279 D)
Won. Bet: 117 D, won: 898 D
18 supply-centers, 14 units
France
MichiganMan (5176 D)
Survived. Bet: 117 D
9 supply-centers, 8 units
Germany
rokakoma (19138 D)
Survived. Bet: 117 D
5 supply-centers, 6 units
England
cardcollector (1270 D)
Survived. Bet: 117 D
2 supply-centers, 2 units
Austria
Barn3tt (41969 D)
Survived. Bet: 117 D
0 supply-centers, 1 units
Turkey
Resigned. Bet: 79 D
0 supply-centers, 1 units
Russia
Tibarius (2836 D)
Defeated. Bet: 117 D
Civil Disorders
Lopt (102 D)Turkey (Autumn, 1901) with 3 centres.
Kangaroo kid (0 D X)Turkey (Spring, 1906) with 2 centres.
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