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Finished: 11 PM Wed 25 Dec 13 UTC
Low Stakes Throwdown-5
1 day /phase
Pot: 156 D - Autumn, 1908, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by benjormungand (3123 D)
07 Dec 13 UTC Spring, 1901: Good luck everyone!
13 Dec 13 UTC Autumn, 1903: I am completely fall at this game. Thanks Italy, I am actually more learning about move actions right now... growing pains..
16 Dec 13 UTC Autumn, 1904: good game, Russia!
18 Dec 13 UTC Autumn, 1905: Austria - you're a spiteful little 2 year old - seriously.
18 Dec 13 UTC Autumn, 1905: How so? Tell me at what point you gave me a good case to trust you ... I wanted to survive and to work with you but there was never a point where you showed any good faith. Every time you or I made a suggestion to work together, you hit me.

Year 1901 autumn, we both backstabbed, you cant be mad about that. You should have been stopped outright in my lands but I misread moves and you survived. you should be happy. 1903 you suggested in one message that we work together to take on Germany. I said, give me a more solid plan - because its obvious I dont trust you. You responded with 1 word "Munich." I told you I'll need more than that (an actual plan and assurance that you wouldnt hit me), you didnt respond and you continued to hit me.

In my view I am not spiteful. I was playing to defend and survive. I sent you plenty of messages and you just messaged me back with cryptic messages which I doubt any one here would trust.

I dont understand how you can call me a spiteful little 2 year old when it is just that your diplomacy is lacking .. give me a plan where we can work together, not a offer of working together and when I ask for a plan you give me a SINGLE word. how am i supposed to trust taht? just move on another country when you have shown to attack me from the get go .. lol
18 Dec 13 UTC Autumn, 1905: Nice misrepresentation there - duplicitous to the end. Shouldn't have expected less.

To the onlookers - reverse who was cryptic and difficult - he must've been referring to a mirror when he wrote that clap trap
18 Dec 13 UTC Autumn, 1905: .. can you provide how I was deceitful? Maybe I need to change up my responses to one word and then not respond to the person until after the turns have been made.

Once again there was nothing solid in the statements you have just said other than just floating your accusation that I am misrepresenting, deceitful, cryptic and one who writes clap traps ...

To be real, I really would like to know exactly where I went wrong. For me this is a learning experience. That being said, I dont think youre going to change the way you are Italy and you are pretty set on just calling me whatever you want.

And to other countries, you can tell me, were there any points where I was cryptic - because I highly doubt it lol
23 Dec 13 UTC Autumn, 1907: A Winner-Takes-All game and so many of you aid Germany to your own defeat - so suss.
24 Dec 13 UTC Italy, you should stick to gunboat games.

After talking with the nations still in play. Your diplomacy lacked initiative. Sometimes you have to ask people for an alliance and help. Also, you may have to be willing to reason with them and explain your thoughts and moves.

easy win for the Germans. gg to the rest of you all.
24 Dec 13 UTC GG.

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benjormungand (3123 D)
Won. Bet: 20 D, won: 156 D
18 supply-centers, 16 units
roka (156 D)
Survived. Bet: 16 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
Timmaaay (449 D)
Survived. Bet: 20 D
5 supply-centers, 5 units
Lord_Kris (552 D)
Survived. Bet: 20 D
3 supply-centers, 4 units
Wusti (1348 D)
Survived. Bet: 20 D
2 supply-centers, 3 units
PlacedPotato (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
nicknukem (80 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Civil Disorders
MarquisVauban (100 D)Turkey (Autumn, 1901) with 3 centres.
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