Finished: 07 PM Tue 05 Nov 13 UTC
Meatball kingdom-2
1 day /phase
Pot: 125 D - Spring, 2013, Finished
Fall of the American Empire IV, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
17 Sep 13 UTC Spring, 1999: Hello all, good luck.
25 Sep 13 UTC Autumn, 2001: New Florida here!
26 Sep 13 UTC Autumn, 2001: Hello, I'm new Peru. I hope it was not too late to enter the game.
26 Sep 13 UTC Autumn, 2001: Not at all! Welcome!
02 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 2003: Oh, what a nice surprise.
I thought NY will become CD but who knows, he's back.
11 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2006: Hmm... This is quite interesting battle.
But I wonder why Peru and Mexico keep radio silent.
Who wants to get Solo in this triumvirate?

If you indulge me to say this, but Mexico has greater opportunity to get a Solo by engulfing West Coast, then moving East.
Peru has Fleets, but he can't hold West Coast just only Fleets.

Florida will be battered down by me.
I will make sure of that even with the cost of letting Mexico goes Solo.

Peru in other hand, won't get anything from this struggle without stabbing his own allies.
Any other place, is on middle of enemy ground and he will struggling to defend it just by Fleets alone.

So let me offer something nice in return: whoever allying themselves with me (especially Mexico or Peru) will get tremendous profit and wDP because his territory will expand larger. Granted he may be just "Survived", but it will be larger than third share.
11 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2006: i think your message is for somebody else?
11 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2006: Lol nice try Quebec.
11 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2006: Yes, Texas. Unfortunately so.
But if you stay alive after this, you are welcome to seek protection at my place.

No, Florida.
I will hunt and destroy you regardless the others.
I will make you can't take any profit from your betrayal.
Let's see who will fall first.

After your plan of taking down Mexico with Peru and me, so realistically that I fall for it.
Luckily, I have some reserves that guard my direct border with you.
11 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2006: We are too wise and strong to fall for your lies. Your false promises fool no one, they won't sow discord among us.
We will end with you, or die trying.
11 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2006: No, I don't want to sow discord among you.
I just want to destroy Florida.

I don't know why we all fallen to Florida lies when nobody asking or even try to contact me.
11 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2006: You can think for yourself, which one faster?
Draw with me or with Florida?
I guess that's what Florida said right, how I have ambition to go Solo and betray everyone near me?
11 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2006: Lies? You're the one who told me you were perfectly ok with an alliance and then you send your entire army south to my border. Had I not allied with Mexico and Peru you would have smashed through the south and completely won the game in just a few years. I stopped that from happening and now you're mad at me.
11 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2006: Yes, I did say that...because it's true. You were moving to stab me right after you said we could have an alliance. All you need to do is look back a few turns to see it.
12 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2006: That is a lies.
I have moved West like what you asked.
I set up borders just what you proposed.
I even honor DMZ that we set up.

The one who attacked me first was you despite you ask me to attack Mexico with you and Peru help.
I have already send 10 Armies to conquered BC and then move to the South, sweeping it out.
Anyone who check the orders history, could see that the one who invade is Florida and not me.
12 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 2006: Last time I checked, trying to move into Kentucky does not mean you honored the DMZ we agreed on. You were going to stab me so I acted.
12 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 2006: That is because you move to Virginia in Spring 2005 and violated our DMZ agreement.
That is why I block your way to Kentucky in Fall 2005.
You are the one who stabbed me first!

Look, whose territory that lost to another party? Mine! Not you, Florida.
If I want to stabbed you, you have already lost half of your territory by now.
And I won't agree to NAP in the first place.
12 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 2006: First off, VA was never part of the DMZ. Second off, I took your territory because I was able to maneuver my units better, not because I took the first strike. You were moving in place to attack me, so I was forced to act. I could see it a mile away. Why were you throwing units down to Ohio and moving all these armies into the great lakes region?
12 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 2006: VA and Kentucky are both part of DMZ.
And I go through my own territory to attack BC from both North and South.

Forced to act? I think you have greater ambition and just use others to your own gain. I should never accept NAP with you.
12 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 2006: Dude it's just a game...chill out. I think you stabbed me and you think I stabbed you.
12 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 2006: And you also tried to go to Kentucky in the Fall 2005.
You were the one who violated DMZ agreement.
12 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 2006: Look at the history. You did the exact. same. thing.
12 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 2006: Because you broke the DMZ first by went to Virginia, that is why.
It is a game of Diplomacy, yet nobody's else talking.
13 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 2006: I personally didn't screw anyone :)
13 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 2006: Stabbers, thx for the game!
22 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2010: If BC out of the game, would all of you consider a Draw?
Or just playing until somebody CD?
23 Oct 13 UTC Spring, 2010: i would not like a draw at this point...
29 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 2011: The tide has turned. Quebec's days are numbered.
29 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 2011: And it would Mexico that wins this map just like what I said.
29 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 2011: And I never claim that I want to have Solo in this map, unlike you, Florida, that have more ambition that you can chew.
01 Nov 13 UTC Spring, 2012: I missed the last turn. Wowwww
04 Nov 13 UTC Excelent game, people. Hope to see you all in battle soon

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Xildur (2284 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 31 D
17 supply-centers, 17 units
WDEnder (232 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 31 D
16 supply-centers, 16 units
Ruinemacil (0 D X)
Drawn. Bet: 14 D, won: 31 D
14 supply-centers, 14 units
Lemons (582 D)
Drawn. Bet: 11 D, won: 31 D
11 supply-centers, 11 units
craftsman (203 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Sexi Mexi (166 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
alex.cox89 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
UncleA (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
KingMeatball (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Civil Disorders
Sexi Mexi (166 D)California (Autumn, 2003) with 0 centres.
Gilganas (100 D)Peru (Autumn, 2001) with 6 centres.
Stabbert (0 D X)Florida (Autumn, 2001) with 4 centres.
KingMeatball (100 D)Cuba (Autumn, 2001) with 4 centres.
UncleA (100 D)Heartland (Spring, 2002) with 7 centres.
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