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Finished: 09 PM Thu 13 Jun 13 UTC
hallo salute
1 day /phase
Pot: 70 D - Autumn, 1911, Finished
Classic, Public messaging only, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
05 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1908: Ok guys, you know I am going to try and go for a solo. It's quite obvious and I won't lie about it. Please do not drag this game out in hopes that I will give up and accept the draw. If you are going to keep missing turns then resign and stop dragging every single turn out an entire day. That is very rude and inconsiderate of the other players. I'm sure you do not mean it that way, but it is still a problem none the less. You win some games and you lose some games. I want to win this game b/c I have already lost two others and need to make up for it. You all are welcome to do everything you can to stop me, but do not drag out the turns just so you can get your way. Again I do not want to accuse anyone here of poor sportsmanship, however, that is the message you are sending to me.
05 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1908: Russia, if you are taking care of other business outside of the game that requires attention and you simply do not have time that is perfectly understandable and I apologize for any false assumptions, however, I would please ask that if you cannot stay in the game you stop coming back to make a single move and then leaving for two turns. It drags the game out considerably and can be a bit annoying.
05 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1908: Having the turns go their designated lengths isn't "dragging out the turns". If you want faster turns join a game with shorter turn lengths.
05 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1908: Look England, I've had this disscussion numerous times before. While the designated time is 24 hours that does not mean you need to have every turn to last 24 hours. I know you don't need that much time and you know it as well. Anyone who has played your standard 24 hour game knows they do not intend to have the turns last that long when they don't have to. That is my point. The time frame is to allow everyone to get moves in on time. It does not mean you should purposely drag out each turn to its full length just b/c you can.
05 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1908: And before you argue the point about players around the world needing more time b/c of time changes, I have played with each of you long enough to know how quickly each of you has submitted moves. None of you have needed the entire time until now which is a tad but suspect.
05 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1908: *bit, not but
05 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1908: Also France, I do not direct any of this at you as you have been good about keeping up with your moves and the time frame.
05 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1908: You are seriously one paranoid dude.
05 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1908: It's not paranoia. I am just expressing my annoyance without being rude.
05 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1908: Or at least attempting to. I don't believe the message is getting through, but there is nothing I can do about that.
05 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1908: well, you're being very rude, accusing people of things that your paranoia-addled brain has conjured up.
05 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1908: You know, I already saw how you argued with Russia and I'm not going to get sucked in to a pointless fight with you.
05 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1908: By the way, France you might want to keep an eye on Portugal. England has set it up so he can convoy an army down there. If he's successful you'll lose Portugal and Spain. I know my moves are more suspect than his, but I made a deal with you so I have to leave you alone or throw my credibility out the window. They are just to stop England from entering the Mediterranean.
05 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1908: Why on Earth would France listen to you when you've just said you're going for a solo victory and thus are his enemy?
05 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1908: He doesn't have to. You all can kill each other for all I care. Just thought I'd tryand help him survive.
06 Jun 13 UTC Spring, 1909: It's winner take all. Our only interest is fighting you. It does me no good to take from France.
06 Jun 13 UTC Spring, 1909: Well then I guess he has nothing to worry about then.
06 Jun 13 UTC Spring, 1909: *scratch that second then, typo
06 Jun 13 UTC Spring, 1909: France, can you please help me convoy from London to Denmark?
06 Jun 13 UTC Spring, 1909: k
06 Jun 13 UTC Spring, 1909: Russia are you on board with teaming up against Turkey or have you gone rogue?
06 Jun 13 UTC Spring, 1909: He's barely here as is so I would assume that is a no. He missed a few turns too many to stop me at this point, but I honestly think he would have beat me if he didn't miss moves.
06 Jun 13 UTC Spring, 1909: Turkey please, stop making assumptions. England and France, I'm teaming up with you against Turkey.
06 Jun 13 UTC Spring, 1909: England, I hope I can trust you with my Northern borders. I will be moving South. And don't attack Baltic Sea (or Kiel), I'm convoying my army to Prussia. France, it will be great if you move to Warsaw from Silesia. We'll bounce each other. I'll take care of Warsaw next phase.
06 Jun 13 UTC Spring, 1909: No offence intended Russia, my apologies, but I must ask, where have you been all this time?
07 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1909: I was on a leisure trip in London which cause little problems because I didn't have much time to hang out with you guys :) Now I'm back.
07 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1909: Thanks England...
08 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1909: sorry, but your fleet is not helpful to fight Turkey. I can use that SC to build an army.
08 Jun 13 UTC Spring, 1910: moving from Kiel to Munich and MAO to NA if you want to support
10 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1910: Come on England. Press 'ready' on your moves.
11 Jun 13 UTC Spring, 1911: Can you just Draw already Turkey? Munich has support from Ruhr and Burgundy, Mardeilles has support from Spain, Berlin has support from Baltic Sea. St. petersburg has support from GoB. That means you can't take any of them. All you can take is Moscow which will get you nowhere.
11 Jun 13 UTC Spring, 1911: Getting tired already? The turns drag out so long we are all hardly here anyway. Why rush now considering you've been quite content with waiting this long? ;)
11 Jun 13 UTC Spring, 1911: Just saying this is a game that you literally cannot win unless someone misses their turn. Since you're so concerned about people delaying the game, I thought you of all people would want to stop delaying the inevitable draw.
11 Jun 13 UTC Spring, 1911: Oh, don't worry. I'm not concerned about time anymore. I'm in enough games that I can be patient. If within the next turn or so the stalemate comes true I'll agree to a draw. So now it is your turn to wait on me as I waited on you.
11 Jun 13 UTC There's no "if it comes true" to wait for. It already has come true. There isn't a single supply center that you can get to that isn't already defended by as many as you can attack with. You are literally just delaying the game for no reason except to be rude. I guess maybe you're just hoping someone misses their turn? That's just sad.
12 Jun 13 UTC Now who is both A) making assumptions and B) getting angry about an apparent right of players to ise as mich time as they need. It doesn't feel good when the shoe is on the other foot now does it? Remember that the next time you decide to dictate what is and isn't rude.
12 Jun 13 UTC I'm not making assumptions. It's literally not possible for you to win this game. Every single place that you can attack is supported stronger than you are able to attack it. So if you're not voting to draw, you're just being an asshole and wasting all of our time. There is no legitimate reason to do what you are doing- only asshole reasons.
12 Jun 13 UTC To the rest of you I do not mean to be inconsiderate. I will still keep up with my moves and draw when the last of my options are exhausted. Thank you for your patience.
12 Jun 13 UTC Don't start getting uppity England. It's not hurting you and I am still testing theories for later games. There IS a purpose. You can check any of my previous games. I've settledfor less before.
12 Jun 13 UTC North Africa- only reachable by 1, unconquerable. Western Med- only reachable by 3, defended by 3, unconquerable. Spain- Only reachable by 1, unconquerable. Marseilles- only reachable by 2, defended by 3, unconquerable. Munich- only reachable by 3, defended by 4, unconquerable. Berlin- only reachable by 2, defended by 2, unconquerable. St. Petersburg- Only reachable by 2m defended by 2, unconquerable. There is nothing to test. That is every territory available. (You can take Prussia and Livonia, they're useless)
12 Jun 13 UTC I understand why you are being an asshole- that's a pretty normal thing. But what I can't understand is being an asshole and then pretending that you're not.
12 Jun 13 UTC Ok. I've really had enough of yout teo faced pretentious little shit attitude. The point was to test whether not I could USE those extra territories to gain a diversionary advantage. You are veing a huge dick about something that isn't a big deal. It would have taken a turn or two to test. You don't give a shit and ridicule other players when they argue against something you are fine with but as soon as it hurts you everything goes to hell. You can do me a huge favor and shut the hell up. I think I'll just mute you and save the trouble. To Russia and France I eill go ahead and draw after we progress to builds for the sake of clarity if you are both alright with that.
12 Jun 13 UTC I see. You can dish it out, but you can't take it.
12 Jun 13 UTC Look who is talking prick.
12 Jun 13 UTC I apologize if I overestimated your intelligence- I assumed you were smart enough to be able to see that you can't win. If you are so dumb that you actually need to try attacking zones where the defenders outnumber you before you realize that it doesn't work, I'm sorry.
12 Jun 13 UTC Normally I wouldn't say things like this, but when you make ridiculous paranoid accusations against people, you lose the privilege of being treated with kid gloves. Next time, think before you start being a dick.
12 Jun 13 UTC Seriously? Look at yourself. I stopped saying anything for quite a while ago and you just brought up old problems for the sake of a crap argument. You are exactly the kind of person I can't stand. And the point wasn't strait offensive, anyone could se that. You do realize the game of diplomacy is as much subversion as it is raw manuvering?
12 Jun 13 UTC Seeing as this arguement will go nowhere anyway and I'm not helping it by continuing it I'm just going to mute you. We can agree to disagree. Hopefully we won't meet again.
12 Jun 13 UTC Here's a way you can not have to deal with me: Click the "Draw" button. You realize there is no difference between a draw with 16 SCs and a draw with 17 SCs, right? The pot will be split evenly between the 4 of us regardless.
12 Jun 13 UTC Exaclty. So why do you care so much. Plus the turn progressed so I'll draw as agreed. Goodbye.

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Turkey
kramerkov18 (1570 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 18 D
17 supply-centers, 16 units
England
BagelManB (189 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 18 D
10 supply-centers, 10 units
France
VxLam (169 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 18 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
Russia
inshala (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 18 D
1 supply-centers, 2 units
Germany
AlexSummers (121 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Austria
Robby17 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Italy
TyPrado (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Civil Disorders
AlexSummers (121 D)Germany (Autumn, 1903) with 2 centres.
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